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TerraPower in deal with Meta for eight Natrium 345 MW nuclear plants

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Re: TerraPower in deal with Meta for eight Natrium 345 MW nuclear plants

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Post by nine_k »

capnrefsmmat wrote: post #10
mpweiher wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While Wyoming is a demonstration plant, it is a demonstration plant of exactly the reactor they plan to build in series. And they have received NRC approval. https://thebreakthrough.org/press/release-the-nrc-issues-con... So not sure what additional regulatory hurdles you see. Can you enlighten us?

From your link, > TerraPower must still complete construction, submit an operating license application, and satisfy all applicable safety and regulatory requirements before loading fuel and beginning operations.

Basically the built plant must pass a rigorous inspection before starting operations. But for that the plant needs to be built!

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Post by sandworm101 »

testing22321 wrote: post #13
christina97 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well operated, mature nuclear power plants can easily achieve 90%+ uptime. I don’t think this is a huge issue.

Is 90% equal to 24x7, 365?

Yes. The refueling takes the most time but that is planned years in advance. A one-year planned outage every decade can still be 24/7/365 in the other nine years.

Re: TerraPower in deal with Meta for eight Natrium 345 MW nuclear plants

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Post by zipy124 »

kamranjon wrote: post #16

Does anyone understand how Meta is able to spend so much money on AI with basically no AI product to speak of? Especially after sinking billions of dollars into a failed VR product? I just don't really understand why they are investing in data centers, I don't know of any actual product they offer that anyone is seriously considering using in the space.

There are many uses for AI other than selling API/chat access. For Meta it can be for example use internally as a software tool, in the same way that they have their own datacenters instead of running on AWS. They can also use them to power recommendation algorithms to increase time on platform. Or they can use them to better target adverts and thus increase the revenue from ads. They can also use them to help people make ads on their platforms etc....

Re: TerraPower in deal with Meta for eight Natrium 345 MW nuclear plants

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Post by julcol »

yes, and hopefully all of them will be set up in his garden and his children kindergarten.

Because why somebody else should bear the risk of a nuclear disaster.

This is nonsense. State/society is the last backstop, the last resort insurer in nuclear risk. Why shall we insure nuclear risks so Mark gets richer with more clicks ? again socializing the costs and privatizing de profits.

Not in my backyard.

Re: TerraPower in deal with Meta for eight Natrium 345 MW nuclear plants

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Post by nine_k »

christina97 wrote: post #12
Octoth0rpe wrote: post #11

> A dual Natrium reactor site can provide 690 MW of reliable 24/7 365 power Given that they haven’t actually built one, asserting the performance seems inappropriate, _especially_ the uptime which IIRC is far, far higher than is typical for proven designs, let alone a new one.

Well operated, mature nuclear power plants can easily achieve 90%+ uptime. I don’t think this is a huge issue.

In fact, the uptime of US nuclear power plants was above 90% for the last decade.

And even if a reactor goes offline, a power plant usually operates 2 to 4 reactors, so the entire plant continues operating.

Re: TerraPower in deal with Meta for eight Natrium 345 MW nuclear plants

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Post by AngryData »

capnrefsmmat wrote: post #10
mpweiher wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While Wyoming is a demonstration plant, it is a demonstration plant of exactly the reactor they plan to build in series. And they have received NRC approval. https://thebreakthrough.org/press/release-the-nrc-issues-con... So not sure what additional regulatory hurdles you see. Can you enlighten us?

From your link, > TerraPower must still complete construction, submit an operating license application, and satisfy all applicable safety and regulatory requirements before loading fuel and beginning operations.

I mean that doesn't sound like very big hurdles. It is an inspection of a completed reactor to make sure it wasn't managed and built like trash. Every factory and business and powerplant is subject to an inspection before it can operate. Even most residentual homes require an inspection before people can live in it.

Re: TerraPower in deal with Meta for eight Natrium 345 MW nuclear plants

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Post by SoKamil »

kamranjon wrote: post #16

Does anyone understand how Meta is able to spend so much money on AI with basically no AI product to speak of? Especially after sinking billions of dollars into a failed VR product? I just don't really understand why they are investing in data centers, I don't know of any actual product they offer that anyone is seriously considering using in the space.

They are using the same infinite money glitch as Google - ads revenue.

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Post by petcat »

bflesch wrote: post #14
holoduke wrote: post #9

When I read this I am more convinced that Europe is done. With leaders like Kaja Kallis, Rutte and Ursula it's so blatantly visible that these people can't think further than one minute. It's really time for a breakup so countries are no longer chained to insanity. They are destroying themselves.

It seems Europe is living rent free in your head, maybe you should talk to a shrink.

I think that person is in the EU and certainly not living rent free!

But it is a very real concern that there seems to be a total lack of technology investment and innovation across Europe.

Re: TerraPower in deal with Meta for eight Natrium 345 MW nuclear plants

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Post by magicmicah85 »

kamranjon wrote: post #16

Does anyone understand how Meta is able to spend so much money on AI with basically no AI product to speak of? Especially after sinking billions of dollars into a failed VR product? I just don't really understand why they are investing in data centers, I don't know of any actual product they offer that anyone is seriously considering using in the space.

The market forgives misadventures cause Meta is still solvent and they make money YoY. Additionally, they are developing heavily in the AI space with making Llama available to the public and all the AI integrations into their products.
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