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Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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Ubiquiti's biggest feature is no monthly recurring cost. I really hope they continue the streak on products like this. Seems like anything else bought up these days is switched to an MRR model with no vision into the long term viability.

I just wish they would put better processors in their stuff. Is this yet another NAS powered by an ARM Cortex?

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Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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post #36
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Ubiquiti's biggest feature is no monthly recurring cost. I really hope they continue the streak on products like this. Seems like anything else bought up these days is switched to an MRR model with no vision into the long term viability.

I just wish they would put better processors in their stuff. Is this yet another NAS powered by an ARM Cortex?

It says 8 Arm Neoverse N2 cores in the blog post. So not directly ARM Cortex, derived from ARM Cortex-X3 but same family as NVIDIA Grace, Google Axion and AWS Graviton4.

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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post #36
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Ubiquiti's biggest feature is no monthly recurring cost. I really hope they continue the streak on products like this. Seems like anything else bought up these days is switched to an MRR model with no vision into the long term viability.

I just wish they would put better processors in their stuff. Is this yet another NAS powered by an ARM Cortex?

I have heard others say the same as you about Ubiquiti devices. I genuinely curious what bottlenecks you've hit.

I've only been using Ubiquiti as a pro-sumer, but it has held up well for my use case of Plex and little game servers.

I use a Synology NAS for my storage though, which is a slightly beefier mobile AMD chipset.

I'd be very interested to know what I should and shouldn't expect from my ARM based network stack though!

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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Looks interesting, but likely lacks FIPS support which makes it an issue for companies that work with the government.

Maybe worth noting that TrueNAS added FIPS in 2024: * https://www.truenas.com/blog/truenas-security-in-2024/

FIPS mode is the greatest

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I love by Dream Machine Pro. Seems to just work and keep everything up to date. I have it running my security cameras as well and it has been pretty much bullet proof. What needs do you have for a router that the Cloud Gateway is missing or is bad at? A PiHole equivalent is about all I can think I'm missing.

IPv6 support is basic at best. The zone-based firewall is very prescriptive and limited. ACL stuff is not great. To increase the MTU of the physical interface connected to the ISP I would need to hack a systemd unit that did it on boot (I either need it at 1508 so the PPPoE interface uses 1500, or I need to MSS clamp it and have it effectively reduced to 1492). Initial configuration requires the device to be connecte…

just genuinely curious about your MTU use case and why this is required...?

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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> "Dual 25 Gigabit SFP28 ports and redundant power supplies for resilience"

Can you actually saturate the links with the spinning drives?

I've had the hardest time making my TrueNAS ZFS server fast when it was filled with HDD spinning disks. I initially also had 12 of them trying to get maximum speed. I have 128GB RAM and a 10G ethernet connection. I tried all types of optimizations like L2ARC via NVMe, etc, and it wasn't very effective and just too much time spent tweaking and testing.

Instead I just threw up my hands and replaced all the spinning disks with NVMe drives for the data I actually shared (8x 4TB NVMe drives.) And now it very usable and no need for LRArc, etc. Random or streaming access is equally fast.

Best choice I made. Now I did do this over a year ago so I skipped the NVMe price inflation.

I still keep 4 spinning disks but it is for archival data that I expect to never access unless something bad happens. It is slow and I use it like a tape drive.

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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*yet They will at some point just cash out.

They've been at this for a while. They do have offerings you subscribe for and pay monthly. They have also consistently offered an option for each of those offerings to bring your own or self host. They've earned my trust.

I tend to agree with you.

In my opinion, as long as the majority of their profits come from people continuing to buy the self-host devices, it is fairly unlikely they'll ever stop offering those devices. Why change a working business model?

Yes, subscription models are enticing for that recurring revenue... number must go up, right? /s

If a majority of your sales are not in subscription products though, I think it would be foolish for a business to blow off its own leg trying to chase that particular dragon.

Then again... businesses have made dumber calls in the past out of nowhere...

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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I've never been a fan of Ubiquiti's proprietary solutions, but this might actually be one product that I can be enthusiastic about.

I've recently been convinced to implement a Unifi stack for my home network. I got a Cloud Gateway, a 10G switch and a couple WiFi APs. The Cloud Gateway will be sold or given away. It's utter crap. I'm now building an OpenWRT container on IncusOS as my Internet gateway/router. The switch is meh. It's easy to admin, which is nice - though I'm having to run UnifiOS on another container on said IncusOS. The APs are fin…

I went with eero and really wish I'd gone with unifi

Apart from the shitty software and basic features either missing or locked behind a monthly cost, the network itself is not bad at all, I get 600-700mbps on wifi throughout the house and have my servers wired on 2.5gbe

But the one thing I really thought I was buying into by choosing an amazon brand was ease when it came to buying upgrades, and yet I ended up having to buy extra hardware (like the wired gateway) from ebay and sellers in the US as amazon does not sell their own hardware everywhere

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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post #36
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Ubiquiti's biggest feature is no monthly recurring cost. I really hope they continue the streak on products like this. Seems like anything else bought up these days is switched to an MRR model with no vision into the long term viability.

I just wish they would put better processors in their stuff. Is this yet another NAS powered by an ARM Cortex?

It's based on Neoverse N2 which in our other platforms (e.g., ENVR Core, UDM Beast, EF Core) has contributed to vast improvements in performance versus ARM Cortex.
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