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Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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Post by cassianoleal »

evanjrowley wrote: post #5

I've never been a fan of Ubiquiti's proprietary solutions, but this might actually be one product that I can be enthusiastic about.

I've recently been convinced to implement a Unifi stack for my home network. I got a Cloud Gateway, a 10G switch and a couple WiFi APs.

The Cloud Gateway will be sold or given away. It's utter crap. I'm now building an OpenWRT container on IncusOS as my Internet gateway/router.

The switch is meh. It's easy to admin, which is nice - though I'm having to run UnifiOS on another container on said IncusOS.

The APs are fine. Decent power and the central administration with the switch is actually quite nice.

If I knew everything I know now, I wouldn't have bought any of those but they will do for now.

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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Post by varenc »

tristor wrote: post #3

I am highly interested in this, especially if it works well with Time Machine to do backups over the network. I've got a fully 10GbE + WiFi 7 network w/ Ubiquiti gear already, would love to ditch my janky DIY NAS setup for something that is integrated with the rest and could potentially give me a better backup setup for my photography as well as enough storage to act as a media server.

I have a UNAS-Pro, which runs the same Unifi Drive software as this, and it works great for Time Machine backups. Dead simple.

I also have tons of other Ubiquiti gear, and honestly there's not a ton of synergy between the NAS and everything else. It's a great NAS though. And also, it's only a NAS. It's not an application server like a Synology NAS.

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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Post by tristor »

fragmede wrote: post #10
tristor wrote: post #3

I am highly interested in this, especially if it works well with Time Machine to do backups over the network. I've got a fully 10GbE + WiFi 7 network w/ Ubiquiti gear already, would love to ditch my janky DIY NAS setup for something that is integrated with the rest and could potentially give me a better backup setup for my photography as well as enough storage to act as a media server.

Wireless Time Machine backup works until one day, Time Machine decides to shit the bed. Do not trust it. Invest in a different backup solution if your data is at all important to you. Something like Arq or Backblaze or tarsnap.

I use the 3-2-1 strategy for backups. I keep one copy off-site by using cloud backups, currently I primarily use Backblaze for that purpose but am considering alternatives for several reasons. I keep a second copy on an external SSD via Time Machine, and I keep one copy on-device. I'd like to use network Time Machine to get rid of the inconvenience of having a bunch of USB external SSDs floating around, especially since none of them are large enough to backup my entire drive if I get close to filling it.

I appreciate the perspective, I definitely take backups seriously for my photography.

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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Post by smartbit »

natebc wrote: post #9
AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who said it was bad? I thought we were all pretty much in agreement that it was good, and the only thing holding it back from wider adoption into e.g. the Linux kernel was the poison-pill of Oracle's ownership and licensing.

another thing holding it back is the threat of a lawsuit from Netapp. source: used to work for a storage vendor that was marketing a NAS based on ZFS and got credible threats from Netapp to the point that we sought a partnership with Oracle that included indemnification under Oracles settlement with Netapp.

only threats, no court cases or journalist writing about ZFS indemnification? IOW please provide links to credible sources.

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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Post by MiracleRabbit »

evanjrowley wrote: post #5

I've never been a fan of Ubiquiti's proprietary solutions, but this might actually be one product that I can be enthusiastic about.

They are getting better.

After a long time they introduced ONVIF into their camera products which basically opened it to everyone.

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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Post by throw0101c »

natebc wrote: post #9
AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who said it was bad? I thought we were all pretty much in agreement that it was good, and the only thing holding it back from wider adoption into e.g. the Linux kernel was the poison-pill of Oracle's ownership and licensing.

another thing holding it back is the threat of a lawsuit from Netapp. source: used to work for a storage vendor that was marketing a NAS based on ZFS and got credible threats from Netapp to the point that we sought a partnership with Oracle that included indemnification under Oracles settlement with Netapp.

Oracle and NetApp 'mutually dismissed' in 2010:

* https://www.theregister.com/off-prem/2010/09/09/oracle-and-n...

* https://www.computerworld.com/article/1585889/opinion-patent...

NetApp originally sued then-independent Sun in 2007, and Sun counter-sued.

Free/TrueNAS/iXsystems has been offering ZFS-based solutions for many years now, and I haven't heard NetApp going after them:

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TrueNAS

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IXsystems

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