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Re: Midjourney Medical

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Post by gpt5 »

152334H wrote: post #216
sberens wrote: post #65

I don't understand how people can hate on this. It's probably the most novel & ambitious consumer health device ever? Plus they're doing it fully bootstrapped. Let them cook!

what's the novelty? mixing healthcare together with a spa is an idea older than Christ. USCT is decades old. Their butterfly chips might be cool, but it's not like the article says anything about that. There's only one other comment in the whole thread that even mentions it.

I find using tens of thousands of ultrasonic chips, submerged underwater to provide you a radiation free full body scan, all while processing a petabyte of data per scan a pretty ambitious and cool project. I hope they make it work.

Re: Midjourney Medical

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Post by davidivadavid »

swyx wrote: post #182
themantalope wrote: post #34

radiologist here - example images don't look great

can you say more? dont look great compared to current radiology, sure, but you see no potential in ultrasound diagnosis whatsoever? would it improving 10% change your mind? 10x? what's a good way to think about what "looks good" looks like?

That's basically the only thing I'm interested in reading about this. Based on my complete lack of radiology knowledge, I'd say the images look... a bit blurry or something? So, what would be an example of something this would not allow a radiologist/doctor to see?

Without those kinds of details, radiologists just expose themselves to: oh so you're telling me this doesn't work as well as the machines you paid ~millions of dollars for and are currently charging your clients a lot to use? Mmm I wonder why.

Re: Midjourney Medical

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Post by gpt5 »

natsucks wrote: post #225
sberens wrote: post #65

I don't understand how people can hate on this. It's probably the most novel & ambitious consumer health device ever? Plus they're doing it fully bootstrapped. Let them cook!

Not hating, but there's no way resolution gets as good as MRI with ultrasound computed tomography ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultrasound_computer_tomography ). Doing something like searching for room-temperature semiconductors so that MRI scanners are much cheaper to operate would be a more worthy goal.

There are many labs searching for room-temp superconductors. It's a research area with unknown results.

This project seems doable (just with a ton of data). Not sure about MRI level resolution, but CT is definitely not MRI level resolution but still extremely useful.

Re: Midjourney Medical

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Post by goda90 »

bonsai_spool wrote: post #228
Veedrac wrote: post #221

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have libertarian enough tendencies to think that if a person wants to self-operate, or pay for an operation that doctors are telling them is not justified given the evidence, then they should have right to do it. But I don't think that's what people normally mean when they say that eager screening causes harmful overdiagnosis. > So your suggestion for indeterminate scans is more scans? The solution to imperfect evi…

The risk estimation is why people aren’t recommended to get scans! There are studies on ‘VIPs’ who get ‘executive MRIs’ and wind up getting treated for things that would never have justified intervention.

That sounds more like a capitalism issue, to be honest. Treatment = revenue, so of course there will be unscrupulous individuals who will bend their oath and let patient anxiety drive care.

The trick seems like it would be to strongly incentivize waiting and watching any symptomless anomalies if further investigation is invasive. If you're getting 60 second scans every month then something growing will be catchable and something static or that disappears can be ignored until the next scan.

Re: Midjourney Medical

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Post by cornstalks »

unholiness wrote: post #119

So, on the one hand, this is interesting! Reducing radiation from CT scans is a noble cause on its own. If on top of that it could make tomography cheaper and easier, you could imagine getting earlier detection of aneurisms, fibrosis, cirrhosis, thrombosis, stenosis, even plausibly cancerous masses (along with plenty of over-detection). On the other hand, nothing here substantiates this promise. We've got a video ren…

> Reducing radiation from CT scans is a noble cause on its own

Is it? Linear No Threshold has largely been rejected at this point. https://jnm.snmjournals.org/content/early/2024/06/21/jnumed....

Re: Midjourney Medical

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Post by Cyclone_ »

block_dagger wrote: post #44

I watched the whole video thinking it was generated by Midjourney, the product, and that the announcement was related to fidelity in images/video around human anatomy. This seems like a very strange pivot for them indeed.

To me it reeks of desperation.

Re: Midjourney Medical

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Post by [deleted] »

geor9e wrote: post #237
1970-01-01 wrote: post #226

So how exactly is the scan counter going to hit their target of a billion per month? Are they scanning us while we sleep?

No, you stand there for 60 seconds. If every hospital had one, even if they sat idle 90% of the day, thats enough to hit that target.

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Re: Midjourney Medical

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Post by autoexec »

cglan wrote: post #8
Reubend wrote: post #7

I don't really understand the connection; they went from image generation to medical scanning?

is it not similar? taking raw data, some vector of data and constructing a visual image

One thing invents a bunch of fake bullshit using artist's work and the other is supposed to give you an image of something real and meaningful that wasn't just hallucinated or patched together. All from the guy who brought us Leap Motion, a gimmicky product that failed to live up to the hype. This isn't exactly encouraging. If it actually works we won't need a press release on their website, we'll hear about it in medical journals and it'll be doctors singing its praises. You'll find it being used in hospitols and not pop-up spas.

Only after that happens will I have to even consider how comfortable I am with the idea of handing over what they suggest will be massive amounts of highly personal medical data to this company and how much I trust them not to exploit that information for their own purposes and profit.

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