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Tesco moving 40k server workloads off VMware amid Broadcom's abusive conduct

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Re: Tesco moving 40k server workloads off VMware amid Broadcom's abusive conduct

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Post by sandworm101 »

fsuts wrote: post #23

”Tesco, a retail conglomerate headquartered in the United Kingdom” For any non Uk people, it’s the largest supermarket in Uk. Combination of large stores and smaller high street convenience stores. (2nd largest was owned by Walmart who sold it recently to private equity and so now it’s saddled with debt and being ruined…).

And it has no US comparison. The tesco meal deal concept, the literal wall of choices, just doesnt exist in north america.

I did a big work trip to the UK a couple years back with over 100 people. I tried to explain meal deals and nobody believed me. Then our people basically stripped the meal deal shelves of the tesco express beside our hotel.

Re: Tesco moving 40k server workloads off VMware amid Broadcom's abusive conduct

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Post by bigfatkitten »

fsuts wrote: post #89
malfist wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are you talking about? Judicial filings in the UK are not generally confidential and when they are it is usually only about specific documents.

In USA you can go on a website and download the filings for PDiddy or Tate or whoever Show me the uk website. Oh what’s that? There isn’t one you say… There is a lot that goes on that the media and the professionals involved don’t speak about.

Not automatically published on the internet, and confidential aren’t the same thing.

Phone, email or visit the court registry.

Re: Tesco moving 40k server workloads off VMware amid Broadcom's abusive conduct

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Post by lokar »

I’m surprised by the comments here.

The Broadcom business model (outside the chip business) had been pretty well known, and they don’t really hide it.

They are tech bottom feeders. They find large businesses with a decent moat and free cash flow but are in long term decline (and wasting cash trying to find something new). They buy them, cut development, support and marginal products. Raise prices and squeeze as much as they can.

Re: Tesco moving 40k server workloads off VMware amid Broadcom's abusive conduct

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Post by wpm »

driverdan wrote: post #50

As someone who has never dealt with anything close to this scale, why would it take 18 months to migrate? Is this poor config management, a lack of automation, or something else?

VMWare is like Active Directory: been around for ages, wildly flexible, and has a habit of seeping structural debt into every line of business the organization undertakes.

Re: Tesco moving 40k server workloads off VMware amid Broadcom's abusive conduct

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Post by nix0n »

bigstrat2003 wrote: post #47
twoodfin wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think Broadcom correctly realizes that no matter what they do there is no long term: In a world of Cloud hyperscalers and containerization, the absolute number of “traditional” virtual machines run by a commercial hypervisor has nowhere to go but down.

Containers do not reduce reliance on VMs, really. Those containers still need a server to run on, and that server is almost certainly going to be a VM and not bare metal.

> that server is almost certainly going to be a VM and not bare metal

I understand that this is normal but I've never understood it.

If all the containers are running the same company's applications (so they don't care about security boundaries between them), what's the difference between having all the containers under the same kernel vs separate kernels?

Re: Tesco moving 40k server workloads off VMware amid Broadcom's abusive conduct

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Post by fsuts »

rwmj wrote: post #97
fsuts wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s judgements (What the judge said) The filings by the parties are made public in the USA and other countries. So you can actually see the arguments and evidence.

You can get court transcripts but (just like the USA) you have to pay for them. Things could be improved, but in no way are normal UK court cases secret as you claimed. You can also visit the courts and watch cases from the public gallery. You're basically wrong and doubling down on it, for what reason I cannot say.

My friend, please don’t act like an expert when you happen to be talking to one…

Magistrates court trials are not recorded so no transcripts. So a malicious prosecution is easy to pursue.

When one files for a transcript in courts that are recorded, the transcript is first sent to the Judge and the judge is allowed to change anything they like, with no transparency. They can also refuse a transcript if they feel like it.

I’m not going to respond any further to you as you for some unknown reason are talking about things that you do not understand…

Have a good day.

Re: Tesco moving 40k server workloads off VMware amid Broadcom's abusive conduct

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Post by hilariously »

ternaryoperator wrote: post #61
remus wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It does seem an odd move. No doubt they're going to milk existing customers for everything they're worth, but they're going to create a generation of people who will never buy anything from them ever again. That guy who's busting his balls to migrate off VMWare because of the price hike is gonna be the CTO in 10 years time, and when he's making that 10m USD purchasing decision they're gonna stay well away from anythi…

Pshaw! Similar behavior by Oracle has not diminished its footprint nor its sales.

I dont think that's true, a lot of the database market that exists is basically "we're not oracle but we did a thing they can also do for much cheaper"

Re: Tesco moving 40k server workloads off VMware amid Broadcom's abusive conduct

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Post by wmf »

nix0n wrote: post #105
bigstrat2003 wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Containers do not reduce reliance on VMs, really. Those containers still need a server to run on, and that server is almost certainly going to be a VM and not bare metal.

> that server is almost certainly going to be a VM and not bare metal I understand that this is normal but I've never understood it. If all the containers are running the same company's applications (so they don't care about security boundaries between them), what's the difference between having all the containers under the same kernel vs separate kernels?

It's cargo culting. Even 37 Signals fell for it.

Re: Tesco moving 40k server workloads off VMware amid Broadcom's abusive conduct

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Post by ajsnigrutin »

sqircles wrote: post #99

I worked in software acquisitions for a large organization and it was really eye opening to see how insane some of these companies are when it comes to pricing customers out. I always wondered - what is the motive? They make pricing structure changes that aren't even considerable for any organization that has any fashion of a budget. VMWare was one example where our already insane costs that had nearly tripled over t…

It's hard (=expensive) to change all the internal infrastructure or sometimes even internal processes, and if companies manage to stay just a bit cheaper than their custumers cost to rewrite "everything", they'll get the money. Even if some customers do so, with the price hike, they still earn more from the ones who don't.

Re: Tesco moving 40k server workloads off VMware amid Broadcom's abusive conduct

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Post by fsuts »

bigfatkitten wrote: post #102
fsuts wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In USA you can go on a website and download the filings for PDiddy or Tate or whoever Show me the uk website. Oh what’s that? There isn’t one you say… There is a lot that goes on that the media and the professionals involved don’t speak about.

Not automatically published on the internet, and confidential aren’t the same thing. Phone, email or visit the court registry.

You need permission of the court(I.e. Judge ) as per CPR

Phoning will get you the national Contact centre, emails may or not any not be replied to… court registry needs an appointment…

It’s all very nuanced. Until you know how it all works, you don’t know

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