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Tesco moving 40k server workloads off VMware amid Broadcom's abusive conduct

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Re: Tesco moving 40k server workloads off VMware amid Broadcom's abusive conduct

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I don’t know how anyone can afford these migrations especially for production on prem workloads without building literally duplicate sets of hardware clusters then manually migrate workloads.

Hire me, I'll be more than happy to show you! :D I'm an expert at it!

Re: Tesco moving 40k server workloads off VMware amid Broadcom's abusive conduct

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post #82

I don’t know how anyone can afford these migrations especially for production on prem workloads without building literally duplicate sets of hardware clusters then manually migrate workloads.

Hire me, I'll be more than happy to show you! :D I'm an expert at it!

Ha I have done migrations recently from vSphere to vSphere using vMotion and it was easy.

But it still took duplicate set of HW and I couldn’t imagine doing it without a lot of IaC and automation in place (plus physical space, power and cooling)

Re: Tesco moving 40k server workloads off VMware amid Broadcom's abusive conduct

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”Tesco, a retail conglomerate headquartered in the United Kingdom” For any non Uk people, it’s the largest supermarket in Uk. Combination of large stores and smaller high street convenience stores. (2nd largest was owned by Walmart who sold it recently to private equity and so now it’s saddled with debt and being ruined…).

It has decent presence in some parts of South East Asia as well via JVs e.g. Tesco Lotus in Thailand.

Re: Tesco moving 40k server workloads off VMware amid Broadcom's abusive conduct

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post #23

”Tesco, a retail conglomerate headquartered in the United Kingdom” For any non Uk people, it’s the largest supermarket in Uk. Combination of large stores and smaller high street convenience stores. (2nd largest was owned by Walmart who sold it recently to private equity and so now it’s saddled with debt and being ruined…).

Walmart had already ruined ASDA to be fair, it's not like private equity is doing worse.

The fifth largest (Morrisons) was also sold to PE with predictable results. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morrisons#CD&R_takeover

Re: Tesco moving 40k server workloads off VMware amid Broadcom's abusive conduct

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As someone who has never dealt with anything close to this scale, why would it take 18 months to migrate? Is this poor config management, a lack of automation, or something else?

I work in automating conversions off VMware and 40,000 VMs is just a lot of data to move. We could probably do 500-1000 / day which would be 3 months, but that would be best case, and there's a lot of prequalification where you examine classes of VMs to check what software they're running and identify the unsupported / difficult cases. That planning would add extra months.

In some cases you can do zero copy conversions, so downtime can be done in a few minutes, but it relies on the customer have very particular storage configurations (NetApp basically). In other cases there can be significant downtime that needs to be scheduled. I worked one case where the customer shut down several production lines over a number of weekends so we could convert the workloads. (Everything was meticulously planned, along with fallbacks that thankfully we did not need to use.)

Some things you don't convert at all. Databases generally get replicated at DB level to new hardware. Single-purpose appliances need to be reprovisioned by going back to the vendor and asking for a KVM equivalent.

Then there's all kinds of craziness, like we had customers who rolled their own backup solutions where we had to add special cases to the software to detect and ignore the backup partitions. Or people running Windows 95 or RHEL 3 (for real!) where there are no virtio drivers and we don't certify the hypervisor so it requires support exceptions. At this point people have been using VMware for nearly 30 years, there's all kinds of crazy legacy.

Re: Tesco moving 40k server workloads off VMware amid Broadcom's abusive conduct

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

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What are you talking about? Judicial filings in the UK are not generally confidential and when they are it is usually only about specific documents.

In USA you can go on a website and download the filings for PDiddy or Tate or whoever

Show me the uk website.

Oh what’s that? There isn’t one you say…

There is a lot that goes on that the media and the professionals involved don’t speak about.

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