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OpenAI Losses Increased Nearly 8X in 2025, with Spending Hitting $34B

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Re: OpenAI Losses Increased Nearly 8X in 2025, with Spending Hitting $34B

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Post by tomlockwood »

themafia wrote: post #107

I'm a simple guy and I don't understand the "sales and marketing" cost. I don't like these products. I have several negative opinions on them. To the extent they work and there is a customer base what marketing could you /possibly/ be engaged in? Doesn't the product sort of market itself? Or another way is this a product that you can market to expand your MAUs? It's so polarizing I can't imagine how that $5.7B is bei…

I've seen lots of ads saying I should use chatgpt to plan a workout or give me recipes. Thats apparently the killer app for 95% of the population at this point.

Re: OpenAI Losses Increased Nearly 8X in 2025, with Spending Hitting $34B

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dylan604 wrote: post #108
themafia wrote: post #107

I'm a simple guy and I don't understand the "sales and marketing" cost. I don't like these products. I have several negative opinions on them. To the extent they work and there is a customer base what marketing could you /possibly/ be engaged in? Doesn't the product sort of market itself? Or another way is this a product that you can market to expand your MAUs? It's so polarizing I can't imagine how that $5.7B is bei…

It costs money to get influencers to set up kool-aid stands on their platforms.

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Re: OpenAI Losses Increased Nearly 8X in 2025, with Spending Hitting $34B

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Post by ralph84 »

themafia wrote: post #107

I'm a simple guy and I don't understand the "sales and marketing" cost. I don't like these products. I have several negative opinions on them. To the extent they work and there is a customer base what marketing could you /possibly/ be engaged in? Doesn't the product sort of market itself? Or another way is this a product that you can market to expand your MAUs? It's so polarizing I can't imagine how that $5.7B is bei…

They have a large and rapidly growing enterprise sales organization. If you want to sell to enterprises you need account executives, solutions engineers, forward deployed engineers, etc.

Re: OpenAI Losses Increased Nearly 8X in 2025, with Spending Hitting $34B

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Post by zerotolerance »

themafia wrote: post #107

I'm a simple guy and I don't understand the "sales and marketing" cost. I don't like these products. I have several negative opinions on them. To the extent they work and there is a customer base what marketing could you /possibly/ be engaged in? Doesn't the product sort of market itself? Or another way is this a product that you can market to expand your MAUs? It's so polarizing I can't imagine how that $5.7B is bei…

I cannot consume any content anywhere without being slapped in the face with an unending stream of OpenAI ads and paid plugs. I'd guess most of that money is going directly to Google and Facebook.

Re: OpenAI Losses Increased Nearly 8X in 2025, with Spending Hitting $34B

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Post by sunsunsunsun »

themafia wrote: post #107

I'm a simple guy and I don't understand the "sales and marketing" cost. I don't like these products. I have several negative opinions on them. To the extent they work and there is a customer base what marketing could you /possibly/ be engaged in? Doesn't the product sort of market itself? Or another way is this a product that you can market to expand your MAUs? It's so polarizing I can't imagine how that $5.7B is bei…

They need marketing because they have competition that essentially offers an identical product. Why should a consumer choose openai over anthropic or whatever else there is? The answer is not obvious.

Re: OpenAI Losses Increased Nearly 8X in 2025, with Spending Hitting $34B

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Post by pluc »

I'm really curious about something: how far will you go to support AI? Clearly they'll need to monetize things further, would you still use [whatever AI you are paying for] if the price was doubled? Tripled? Where would you stop and would you stop using AI altogether or would you look at competitors?
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