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Is DeepSeek really behaving different than other Chinese companies? Intellectual theft is ongoing and has been ongoing for decades. Besides security risks and foul play, it is impressive by just how much DeepSeek undercuts OpenAI and Claude. DeepSeek charges $0.87 per million output tokens compared to $50 for Fable and $30 for GPT-5.5.
No such thing.
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The chinese providers are just the CCP. They don't even need a cloud act...
I think too many people are conflating Chinese providers with Chinese models - you can easily have Chinese models safely (well, relatively safely, I guess) hosted on US or EU infrastructure.
If Chinese LLMs are successfully making people in the west defend China, then I think we have all the evidence we need to explain why they are giving away their models. The next step of course will be to get people using that ungodly cheap AI on Chinese servers. Which will also be defended because "I would never trust an American Lab".
This is the beginning end of the hyperscaler era, not a shift from US hyperscalers to Chinese hyperscalers. Taking Nvidia's extremely lucrative market is the goal.
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I understand it's supposed to be obvious to all of us, but maybe just for fun, can you follow through? What is the next step in the nefarious plan?
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The US token providers started the ball rolling on large-scale copyright infringement in order to make their models work.
They built their business on IP laundering, so it's very difficult for me to feel sorry for them now.
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I understand it's supposed to be obvious to all of us, but maybe just for fun, can you follow through? What is the next step in the nefarious plan?
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It's hard to truly grasp the enormity of the evil, really.
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I understand it's supposed to be obvious to all of us, but maybe just for fun, can you follow through? What is the next step in the nefarious plan?
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Can you keep a straight face when you say IP theft while OpenAI and Claude have their entire business based on IP theft?
This is a commonly-repeated trope. Full of all the emotional zeal of AI Doomerism, but no accompanying evidence.
This includes books, the internet, or other AI models. It's all the same to me.
I find it hypocritical when AI labs complain about their models being used for training.
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> automotive platforms are a key military asset All the more reason not to save companies that can't compete in the global space. What good is a jeep that the Chinese laugh at?
You think people laughing is an important metric versus having an integrated industrial facility capable of producing vehicles in large quantities? Maybe start at the beginning. Where do you think power comes from in the world? I'll give you a hint. It's not the ability to construct narratives.
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Why should that mean that Americans should prefer that TikTok restrict narratives unfavoraroble to American oligarchs?
What do you think the Chinese would use Tiktok for if Taiwan heated up again?
The China fearmongering doesn't really work in this case, our own government wants the ability to lie to and manipulate us about everything continuously.