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Re: Want your images back? That'll be $5

#201

What's the best alternative? Flickr? I don't want to self-host my photos, too much management. I don't want to use Apple or Google or MS Clouds for various reasons. I do want to support a pure-play, independent-ish, profitable, consumer friendly platform. To upload hires shots and have them easy to tag/share/access among those to whom they may be of interest. I expect to pay, but not through the nose. Reliability mat…

Perhaps try https://ente.com/, as they offer a paid plan.

Re: Want your images back? That'll be $5

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> I don't want to self-host my photos, too much management. I dunno https://immich.app is pretty painless IME.

You still need a host that provides a large storage and monthly bandwidth, which is becoming expensive. It doesn't take care of backups either.

I self-host Immich on a personal home server. I do pay for backups, though. For 65GB of images (not a lot) I pay ~$1/mo to Backblaze. The backed-up data is 30% bigger in size right now (= 82GB), as it's incremental.

Re: Want your images back? That'll be $5

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If it was just that, I'd be okay-ish with it (even though it started out as a service). But pushing a monthly subscription for a 1-time action? Man.....

If it requires nothing more than a click to cancel, it seems like you'd be happier in life if you viewed such a thing as merely a two-step process (signup, get what you need, cancel immediately) rather than a serious commitment to spend $5 a month for the rest of your life. Unfortunately, everyone in business is now required to do this 'wishful thinking' that people will commit to everything. I laugh sometimes at ite…

Haha, that's fair! You know how it is – I'm not mad, just disappointed :P

Re: Want your images back? That'll be $5

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It isn't just out of the kindness of their hearts that they don't do this. There are laws and regulations. There is also legal risk and reputation. I have to go through a legal and privacy process at my big corp job whenever I want to record a new timestamp and I need to ensure that the data is used appropriately and that it is wiped later. I've only seen these compliance requirements become more onerous over the pas…

> There are laws and regulations. There is also legal risk and reputation. One of the big companies, Meta, already decided to go ahead and grab terabytes of pirated books to feed their LLM. [0] Therefore I would not give them (or similar entities) the benefit of the doubt when it comes to how they might use text that customers "gave" them under some unreadably-favorable terms of service. With PII, the pirated-books e…

More specifically, the CEO said that users are "dumb f*cks" for submitting data to Facebook, the predecessor of Meta.

Re: Want your images back? That'll be $5

#206
If Google Photos gave me my photos in one go, exactly as they are in the app, I'd gladly pay $5.

As it stands, they offer "Takeout" for free. This process gives you hundreds of zip files with the photos distributed into deep subfolders by date. That would be forgivable if it weren't for the fact that they revert all their processing and deduping, leaving you with 20 copies of the same file scattered in random places. To make matters worse, if you try to download more than two zips at a time, it throws an error and forces you to start a new Takeout request. You then have to wait 24 hours for an email telling you that you can try downloading the zips all over again.

I just assume the project manager responsible is a Dark Triad personality whose sole goal in life is preventing people from ever leaving Google Photos.

My current strategy is to chisel it down by using the Google Photos search function to show 100 files as a time, which I download as a zip, then delete those 100 while they're still selected. That way they are somewhat organized and still deduped, unlike the mess that Takeout gives me.

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Maturity is recognizing that ninety-eight times out of a hundred, there actually is nothing you can do, because nothing you do will change it. Getting angry means you're letting these people you dislike into your head, controlling your thoughts; why would you be proud of that? In the remaining two times out of a hundred, regulating your emotions by providing them the feedback in a calm, direct manner is as effective…

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I predict that in the future, when you cancel an LLM subscription, they will threaten that unless you pay, to fully delete your anonymized chats, they will be public as paid training data. You know ...that is how we managed to offer you such a cheap subscription...

> (...) your anonymized chats, they will be public as paid training data. If they are PII then under GDPR they are obligated to delete the data. If not then they will be liable to pay fines up to $20 million or 4% of their total global turnover.

The actual fines under GDPR aren't a huge deal. There are companies who get fined over and over and over and over again year after year after year. It's not running them out of business, it's just cost of business.

Re: Want your images back? That'll be $5

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post #193

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It isn't just out of the kindness of their hearts that they don't do this. There are laws and regulations. There is also legal risk and reputation. I have to go through a legal and privacy process at my big corp job whenever I want to record a new timestamp and I need to ensure that the data is used appropriately and that it is wiped later. I've only seen these compliance requirements become more onerous over the pas…

> There are laws and regulations. There is also legal risk and reputation. One of the big companies, Meta, already decided to go ahead and grab terabytes of pirated books to feed their LLM. [0] Therefore I would not give them (or similar entities) the benefit of the doubt when it comes to how they might use text that customers "gave" them under some unreadably-favorable terms of service. With PII, the pirated-books e…

Fair enough. I don't use Facebook at all because I don't respect or trust the company or it's mission. I do use Gemini and Claude though.
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