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Lore – Open source version control system designed for scalability

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Re: Lore – Open source version control system designed for scalability

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Post by MBCook »

echoangle wrote: post #8
UltimateEdge wrote: post #3

Ahah, the second and third links on the page are to GitHub

Well it seems to be intended for repos with large blobs like video games so it kind of makes sense that their own pure source code is still managed with git.

It makes total sense. It’s just kind of ironic.

Re: Lore – Open source version control system designed for scalability

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Post by rootlocus »

throw2ih020 wrote: post #24

For context, since a lot of people on HN haven't worked on games - this is not intended to compete with Git for general software development. This is a competitor with Perforce for game development. Git is fine for text based files like code, but it's really bad at stuff like textures, 3D models, audio files, and other non-text files that game developers need to collaborate on. For example, one artist might need to o…

Git LFS has file locking, and no VCS can provide you with the tools for diffing binary assets. I don't see any meaningful difference between Perforce, Diversion or Lore and git + LFS + file locking. Unless there's a meaningful performance impact for large projects (I only work on small / medium projects), the capabilities are the same. However, I get excellent git support for code in any editor, as opposed to Diversion or Lore which have none.

Re: Lore – Open source version control system designed for scalability

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Post by cedws »

niek_pas wrote: post #22

Just today as I pushed some changes to Github, I was thinking how user-unfriendly Git's UI is: Enumerating objects: 5, done. Counting objects: 100% (5/5), done. Delta compression using up to 10 threads Compressing objects: 100% (3/3), done. Writing objects: 100% (3/3), 290 bytes | 290.00 KiB/s, done. Total 3 (delta 2), reused 0 (delta 0), pack-reused 0 remote: Resolving deltas: 100% (2/2), completed with 2 local obje…

Git as a data structure is clever, but Git as a CLI is atrocious.

Re: Lore – Open source version control system designed for scalability

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Post by interpol_p »

Their docs seem entirely LLM written. It seems especially obvious in the FAQ. While I'm not against using LLMs for writing assistance, they've left a lot of the unnecessary language and typical stylistic choices in there, which erodes my trust in the project a bit. Perhaps it's a very good game-oriented version control system, but the lack of human attention on the docs makes me wonder how much they care

Re: Lore – Open source version control system designed for scalability

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Post by regnerba »

rootlocus wrote: post #33
throw2ih020 wrote: post #24

For context, since a lot of people on HN haven't worked on games - this is not intended to compete with Git for general software development. This is a competitor with Perforce for game development. Git is fine for text based files like code, but it's really bad at stuff like textures, 3D models, audio files, and other non-text files that game developers need to collaborate on. For example, one artist might need to o…

Git LFS has file locking, and no VCS can provide you with the tools for diffing binary assets. I don't see any meaningful difference between Perforce, Diversion or Lore and git + LFS + file locking. Unless there's a meaningful performance impact for large projects (I only work on small / medium projects), the capabilities are the same. However, I get excellent git support for code in any editor, as opposed to Diversi…

Git LFS for example does not support file chunking. So a single byte change on a large (100s of gigs) file means downloading the whole file again. Lore does chunking of binary files which means faster downloads and better de-dupping on the backend.

Re: Lore – Open source version control system designed for scalability

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Post by WillPostForFood »

glouwbug wrote: post #11
headwayoldest wrote: post #2

How long before Epic starts giving away other software and suing git to support lore?

I can’t remember the last time anyone actually played the game they got for free on epic’s store

Citizen Sleeper, the game that is going free tomorrow on the Epic store is really good. Space Cyberpunk themed RPG/Survival Sim.

It is interesting that people are so cynical about Epic giving out free games. I get that people love Steam, but competition in the storefront market is not bad.

Re: Lore – Open source version control system designed for scalability

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Post by throw2ih020 »

rootlocus wrote: post #33
throw2ih020 wrote: post #24

For context, since a lot of people on HN haven't worked on games - this is not intended to compete with Git for general software development. This is a competitor with Perforce for game development. Git is fine for text based files like code, but it's really bad at stuff like textures, 3D models, audio files, and other non-text files that game developers need to collaborate on. For example, one artist might need to o…

Git LFS has file locking, and no VCS can provide you with the tools for diffing binary assets. I don't see any meaningful difference between Perforce, Diversion or Lore and git + LFS + file locking. Unless there's a meaningful performance impact for large projects (I only work on small / medium projects), the capabilities are the same. However, I get excellent git support for code in any editor, as opposed to Diversi…

I haven't made games for a long time so I can't speak for my experience, only my friends. From what I understand (1) Perforce has decent integrations with the game engine editors my friends work with, so editor support is no factor for them and (2) it has better delta support for the file types they work with - I believe Git LFS mostly uses a generic xdelta diff which is kind of mediocre at everything versus Perforce can understand different file types and be extended to support custom types.

Re: Lore – Open source version control system designed for scalability

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Post by HansHamster »

jacobgold wrote: post #21

I'd trust this project more if it was named Data.

Yeah, I'm still concerned about crystalline entities suddenly showing up. Have they ever fixed it? I don't see anything in the issue tracker, probably because no one was left last time to report it...
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