1m context btw.
And apparently, actual support for 1M context window, not just theoretical.
GLM-5.2 is the new leading open weights model on Artificial Analysis
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#212Earlier quoted context omitted.
They did muse spark ... it's not garbage. Also what are they building it for? I'd think it's to serve ads better or something like that. Maybe Muse Spark fits facebook's needs perfectly...
Mo Bitar said something like "Meta's LLM is the one you use if you accidentially hit the wrong button in WhatsApp. Its user base is fat-finger phone users."
Understood - they're just doing other things. Maybe custom ad rewriting for a target audience or some kind of deep analytics insight into user behavior or translations that optimizes for maximizing purchasing habits over literary accuracy ... I'm just saying their incentives are elsewhere and maybe Muse is serving them well.
I mean that is the smart move here. Focus the model on optimizing the core business. For Meta, that's not coding tools.
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#213I have been trying out GLM 5.2 and I am really impressed by it for the most part. To all people on Hackernews, I am curious as to what agent harness are you using it with. Previously I was using opencode and then I switched to using Opencode + obra/superpowers and creating custom skill.md themselves for it. I found things to take more time and intervene more but the result of it has been that I have found it to work…
I just used CC with GLM, I was satisfied.
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#214Why aren't more people talking about this? It's literally Opus 4.7 quality stupid prices. I know providers who are offering this at unlimited tokens for $50 a month. Some are even offering API rates at 3x lower than the official ZAI api rates which are already like 10x cheaper than Opus. (Crof and Umans btw) This is a huge blow to Anthropic/OpenAI/Google and a massive win for the rest of the world. The official API p…
To answer the question in your first sentence - because it's VERY computationally (ha) expensive as a human being to keep up with all the options. It's also very hard to figure out how to run a model like this. There's no installer . If you really really care, which 99% of people do not, you have to google a guide, and then find out it's out of date... I've tried a number of these, and the learning curve is very stee…
I agree with this.
I'd pay for an out of the box solution. i.e. an Installer with updates
Re: GLM-5.2 is the new leading open weights model on Artificial Analysis
#215what is that moodboard and chart of hypertension in the middle of the article that isn't explained?
This is a great step up in open models however the pricing to support z.ai is not far cheaper than Claude / OpenAI subscription
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#216Earlier quoted context omitted.
Short comments... - GPT 5.5 consistently the best, an opinion who gets me constant downvotes here by the Anthropic Marketeer strike force... - China is going to eat the US lunch on AI - What have European universities and companies been doing? Its like if, on a parallel past/future, Nikola Tesla and Edison would have created flying Cyberpunk machines, while Europeans researchers, would be getting together to request…
To be honest, living in Switzerland and speaking with peers, we're just exhausted by the constant AI hype. For a lot of us, the fact that Europe isn't frantically trying to scrape the entire internet and every book in existence for the next massive model isn't a bad thing. The big players are doing their thing, like with the nuclear arms race. We regulate a lot, too much a lot of the time, but sometimes that trickles…
Sir, I would suggest that if Europe fails to be economically competitive, the downstream implications on European society will produce much worse outcomes than (for instance) data transparency…
Doing things with ethical intentions does not necessarily produce outcomes that are beneficial for society at large.
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#217Earlier quoted context omitted.
Fable was 20 times worse on that. It's clear it was the vibe coding model, as like no other model before, fully turned you into his assistant instead of the other way around.
Could it be possible, these firms are optimizing for two things: a) Better performance. b) Gathering data from you to further improve performance later. I've also found the huge amount of planning rather than iteration frustrating. I've felt like I'm teaching a junior!
more thinking == more tokens === more money LOLL
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#218Why aren't more people talking about this? It's literally Opus 4.7 quality stupid prices. I know providers who are offering this at unlimited tokens for $50 a month. Some are even offering API rates at 3x lower than the official ZAI api rates which are already like 10x cheaper than Opus. (Crof and Umans btw) This is a huge blow to Anthropic/OpenAI/Google and a massive win for the rest of the world. The official API p…
To answer the question in your first sentence - because it's VERY computationally (ha) expensive as a human being to keep up with all the options. It's also very hard to figure out how to run a model like this. There's no installer . If you really really care, which 99% of people do not, you have to google a guide, and then find out it's out of date... I've tried a number of these, and the learning curve is very stee…
install opencode, then either pay $10 for their plan, or add an openrouter api key.
Re: GLM-5.2 is the new leading open weights model on Artificial Analysis
#219Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you have benchmarks or at least anecdotes to back that up? I'm not arguing with you; I would just love to see some proof that open models are getting as good as Anthropic's models.
look at benchmarks, use the model yourself. Im usually first to call BS on every chinese model that says they are as good as Opus. this is finally the first one that actually is. It is a massive jump from every other previous chinese model.
"use the model yourself"
I wish I had the time to set it up and work on side projects but unfortunately life and work have been crazy (as I'm sure many here feel). That's why I asked for anecdotes about it.
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#220Artificial Analysis coding benchmark shows GLM5.1 on high pretty close to GPT5.5 xhigh in cost to run, with GPT5.5 on medium significantly less expensive. Compared to GPT5.5 medium GLM5.1xhigh is twice the cost and half the intelligence. They don't have GLM5.2 on there yet, but that'd a big gap to bridge. https://artificialanalysis.ai/agents/coding-agents?coding-ag... I thought I was "holding it wrong" until DeepSWE…
It got 46.2 on DeepSWE in Z.ai's own run[1]. That would put it between Opus 4.7 xhigh and Opus 4.8 medium.