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GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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I've been running GrapheneOS for 7 months now and I'm not going back. When I bought my Pixel 10 last year, I wasn't actually planning on trying Graphene for a while....until I noticed Google had force bundled a 'Wicked For Good' movie promo theme with the latest security update.

would it have the desktop mode and linux terminal? That's the only reason I'm eyeing a Pixel

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Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Regarding 2: that is literally how SMS reactions work. Apps that recognize it just interpret it as "put that emoji on that message". It is unfortunate that it doesn't do that tho. RCS is different, which you can sometimes get working by installing Google Messages¹, which is essentially the only app that supports RCS any more. Google runs essentially all the servers too. --- 1: There are no third-party RCS apps² becau…

I agree with this post and add one anecdotal data point. I had installed graphene os on a pixel but after a couple months and a couple loops between lineage, stock, and graphene, I eventually settled on stock android. I have group messages with family and some of the family are on apple, some on android, and RCS only works with google messages and google services installed. It's infuriating that I can't send RCS mess…

RCS via Google Messages and sandboxed Google Play is fully supported on GrapheneOS:

https://grapheneos.org/usage#rcs

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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I've been using Graphene on my Pixel 7a for about a year and I'm happy I made the switch. For sure it is a bit rougher than using Google's OS, but not enough to make me regret it. The main things I miss are (1) when I'm entering text I can't swipe left and right on the space bar to scroll the cursor left and right, and (2) the texting app doesn't just attach reaction emojis to a message -- it quotes the whole message…

Regarding 2: that is literally how SMS reactions work. Apps that recognize it just interpret it as "put that emoji on that message". It is unfortunate that it doesn't do that tho. RCS is different, which you can sometimes get working by installing Google Messages¹, which is essentially the only app that supports RCS any more. Google runs essentially all the servers too. --- 1: There are no third-party RCS apps² becau…

GrapheneOS will eventually have a GrapheneOS RCS app, but for now RCS is fully supported via Google Messages and sandboxed Google Play:

https://grapheneos.org/usage#rcs

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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There is a list of compatible banking apps: https://privsec.dev/posts/android/banking-applications-compa...

Big list, unfortunately one of my banks is not there (BCGE, Switzerland), most probably meaning I can't even login into ebanking in any other way since they have their properietary authentication app (CrontoSign, also not listed). Its rather small regional/cantonal bank so I get it, even though that region is Geneva, mecca of (some types of) banking. Other banks that I use are there. Almost perfect...

My banking apps were missing in list too, it doesn't mean that they are not working. You can test and report on that issue tracker about your banking app if it works :)

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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I have two questions, if anyone has any advice. 1) What's a reasonable Pixel phone to buy to try out GrapheneOS? Is a 128GB Pixel 7 "good enough" or will I get a significantly better experience with a newer phone and/or more storage? 2) Is there a Graphene alternative that would let me de-google an Samsung A12? Back in the day I had some Galaxy S3 and S4 phones that I installed Lineage on, I have no idea if that's co…

1) I'm typing this in a pixel 7 pro running grapheneos. I'd say these are plenty good enough. Device support is pretty solid compared to cyanogenmod of previous times. App installation is a bit slow using sandboxed play store. Not sure why that is.

For security reasons, GrapheneOS uses ahead-of-time compilation for apps. The stock OS compiles the heavily used parts of the code dynamically in-memory and then does partial ahead-of-time compilation later in the background. The install-time compilation will become more asynchronous in the future so the app can be used right away.

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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I was using GrapheneOS for years, until the battery died while I was on an important call, trying to get someplace. Plugged it in, but little did I remember that I had installed OS update that was pending app optimization phase that happens during next boot. GrapheneOS has some hardening in this phase, which as I understand, essentially has to rebuild all apps without cache. And as I have a ton of apps, I was parked…

App optimization happens in the background now, and pops a notification when it is done, asking to restart all open apps.

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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post #12

I've been running GrapheneOS for 7 months now and I'm not going back. When I bought my Pixel 10 last year, I wasn't actually planning on trying Graphene for a while....until I noticed Google had force bundled a 'Wicked For Good' movie promo theme with the latest security update.

How's the P10 camera on graphene? Literally 90% of the reason I'm on a pixel is because I love the low-light smarts that the camera software has, but I don't know if I'll lose that with Graphene.

It works exactly the same as in the original "Pixel OS", you just install the same camera app from Play store.

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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I am not sure why you even consider an android based OS then.

Because AOSP is open source and can be built without Google Play running at the background unlike the other alternative: giving up privacy to yet another big tech Apple. Graphene adds many privacy features on top of regular AOSP. But it only works on phones that has good security features that are not woefully outdated or completely closed-off. Google has complete control over Pixel supply chain and they can make the…

Opensource or not if someone says they hate so much google they do not want to touch a google device with a 10ft pole even if they didn't gave money or personal data to google to access it, I don't see how that person can accept running code from them.

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Makes me sad, because I can't make the jump until I know my banking and related essential apps will work.

In terms of apps, I fully believe it will only get worse from here: Google’s trajectory has been pretty hostile, and third‑party developers tend to follow it. That’s why I have two phones. One runs GrapheneOS and is my daily driver; the other (considerably less private and secure) stays at home connected to my server so I can always scrcpy into it.

I had the same idea in mind, would you mind sharing how you do it? I also use 2 phones, GrapheneOS as my daily, another phone at home just with banking stuff and some other crappy apps.

Few questions if you dont mind answering: - do you have to keep the phone screen switched on? - Do you access via VNC? - Can you access it from another phone? is it usable?

Thanks!

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