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Stop Killing Games fails to secure EU law despite 1.3M signatures

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Re: Stop Killing Games fails to secure EU law despite 1.3M signatures

#41
Why would 1.3M signatures be enough to secure EU law? That is entirely unreasonable and undemocratic, given the small section of the entire EU population that number represents.

The "despite" certainly creates an interesting expectation, though.

Re: Stop Killing Games fails to secure EU law despite 1.3M signatures

#42

Is this cause even worth a movement?

Yes, absolutely! I personally want to be able to play games many years after they are released and after they have stopped receiving any support. Yet we see growing number of examples where this is not the case and you get locked out of a game permanently when its publisher decides it no longer wants to support it.

Re: Stop Killing Games fails to secure EU law despite 1.3M signatures

#43

Well, it's a million signatures for something to be brought up, not for something to definitely become law. A decade or so ago I (among millions) signed to abolish daylight saving time. Still waiting for that heh.

The daylight saving time shit is such a fucking fumble from the EU. We have an instance of direct democracy, we have EU politicians parading around saying “we’re gonna end it” and then absolutely nothing happens. Council points fingers at Commission, Commission points fingers at Council. “It’s their job.” How am I as an EU citizen supposed to be proud of being part of this dysfunctional mess?

Re: Stop Killing Games fails to secure EU law despite 1.3M signatures

#44

makes me envy of Switzerland's "enough signatures causes referendum which actually does create a new law" system

the Swiss can only propose new constitutional amendments, not statutory laws. And precisely to avoid having what is supposed to be a technical decision into an overly broad popular vote, because those are still supposed to belong into parliamentary debate. Because if people voted on every single regulation you'd be at the ballot box five times a day.

You should check out Swiss constitution sometimes to see how true that is :P

Re: Stop Killing Games fails to secure EU law despite 1.3M signatures

#45
post #15

Well, it's a million signatures for something to be brought up, not for something to definitely become law. A decade or so ago I (among millions) signed to abolish daylight saving time. Still waiting for that heh.

Trump's said he wants to end it. That's something I'd back him on. I wish he'd sign that executive order and tilt that windmill in the courts instead of the stuff he is pushing. I'd be rooting for him!

Trump promises a lot of things, while also promising others their polar opposite or flipping 180° once in office.

If you'd back a politician with a track record that bad on any promise, that is probably something telling more about you than the politician.

Re: Stop Killing Games fails to secure EU law despite 1.3M signatures

#46

The ECI process forces the Commission to respond formally, not to legislate. The Commission said no, which SKG anticipated. They had already secured a legislative call signed by 45 MEPs and are pushing to amend the Digital Fairness Act through Parliament. The headline frames this as a defeat. Finishing the ECI process shifted the venue to Parliament, where SKG says they have majority support.

I'm not sure but it sounds like a skirmish to lure out the lobby groups talking points into the wide open by the voice of the EU commission.

Re: Stop Killing Games fails to secure EU law despite 1.3M signatures

#47
post #43

Well, it's a million signatures for something to be brought up, not for something to definitely become law. A decade or so ago I (among millions) signed to abolish daylight saving time. Still waiting for that heh.

The daylight saving time shit is such a fucking fumble from the EU. We have an instance of direct democracy, we have EU politicians parading around saying “we’re gonna end it” and then absolutely nothing happens. Council points fingers at Commission, Commission points fingers at Council. “It’s their job.” How am I as an EU citizen supposed to be proud of being part of this dysfunctional mess?

It's easy talking points during elections but requires lengthy legal procedures and thus gets chopped immediately. Politicians gonna be politicians. Better to be talking about the time of day than some other dog whisle.

Re: Stop Killing Games fails to secure EU law despite 1.3M signatures

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post #6

If only those 1.3 million signatories pledged to never buy from a company that Kills Games again...

This movement stems from Ubisoft’s The Crew, and judging by how Ubisoft is doing financially, maybe they have already.

>Ubisoft has released its financial results for the full 25-26 fiscal year, reporting a sharp decline in revenue and net bookings, down 21.8% and 17.4% year-over-year (YoY), respectively, due to the "softer new release schedule" and new operating model.

Re: Stop Killing Games fails to secure EU law despite 1.3M signatures

#49
post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some would more amicably call it democracy, but to each their own.

Democracy is mob rule when I don’t like it. Democratic activity is populism when I don’t like it.

More direct democracy also makes it more attackable for misinformation campaigns (trying to offer a populist answer to complex problems).
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