Does anyone use this outside of college classes? It looks so great in these demos but I never hear of companies using it.
I have used at work a lot for some projects (device physics modeling stuff)
Wolfram Language and Mathematica version 15
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Re: Wolfram Language and Mathematica version 15
#32I’ve used Mathematica at university, it’s so great! Creating fractals, animations and so on is so easy and intuitive. The problem though is that Wolfram is a walled garden. When you think about integrating it in an enterprise environment, you get hit by such high costs, it stops making sense. Imagine if they open sourced it, I feel like their products have so much utility, buried deep down Wolfram ecosystem and conve…
I'm aways surprised that there's no open source language that provides everything you get with Wolfram language. For example, the level of pattern matching you can use when defining functions, as well as the high level of functional composition. It is like having a mix of APL, Lisp, and Prolog that is very productive to use.
> "...the level of pattern matching you can use when defining functions, as well as the high level of functional composition..."
This sounds like your average functional programming language. The Scicloj community is the first thing to come to mind (but I assume they don't do symbolic algebra/calculus like Mathematica does), but I don't know what you're specifically missing.
Re: Wolfram Language and Mathematica version 15
#33I’ve used Mathematica at university, it’s so great! Creating fractals, animations and so on is so easy and intuitive. The problem though is that Wolfram is a walled garden. When you think about integrating it in an enterprise environment, you get hit by such high costs, it stops making sense. Imagine if they open sourced it, I feel like their products have so much utility, buried deep down Wolfram ecosystem and conve…
I'm aways surprised that there's no open source language that provides everything you get with Wolfram language. For example, the level of pattern matching you can use when defining functions, as well as the high level of functional composition. It is like having a mix of APL, Lisp, and Prolog that is very productive to use.
Wolfram language is the easy part to implement
Its standard library is almost impossible to reproduce in its enterity
If those libraries were like regular code that got published to Github or something like that.. like pypi or npm or crates.io or whatever. And if mathematica had a lean standard library. It would be very feasible to implement a clone that's basically compatible
I mean. Depending on just wolfram rather than random open source contributors has benefits, for example it's more resistant to supply chain attacks. Indeed the npm model is not good. But, it is open, and that's what enabled for example deno and bun to have some compatibility with node
Re: Wolfram Language and Mathematica version 15
#34The mathematica solve function is a lot of fun to use.
Re: Wolfram Language and Mathematica version 15
#35I’ve used Mathematica at university, it’s so great! Creating fractals, animations and so on is so easy and intuitive. The problem though is that Wolfram is a walled garden. When you think about integrating it in an enterprise environment, you get hit by such high costs, it stops making sense. Imagine if they open sourced it, I feel like their products have so much utility, buried deep down Wolfram ecosystem and conve…
I'm aways surprised that there's no open source language that provides everything you get with Wolfram language. For example, the level of pattern matching you can use when defining functions, as well as the high level of functional composition. It is like having a mix of APL, Lisp, and Prolog that is very productive to use.
From a strict PL perspective, the Wolfram/Mathematica language is rather based on a term rewriting paradigm. The languages Maude, Pure and TXL would be examples of something that's broadly comparable but more generic. In general, it turns out to be a fairly niche paradigm that's not very useful outside of symbolic computing itself, or related fields such as modeling of PL syntax and compiler internals.
Re: Wolfram Language and Mathematica version 15
#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
Still nowadays? My impression is that in (pure) math it's lost most of its market share in the last few years. But maybe that's only in my circles.
what do you or others use instead?
Maple would be the main proprietary alternative but yes, there's also SageMath.
Re: Wolfram Language and Mathematica version 15
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
I had it in an engineering inner sanctum of Apple. had used it since it came out in 1988 on campus in Illinois, and folks in Apple definitely knew it. Not sure who all was doing what with it.
Steve Jobs and Stephen Wolfram were friends for years. Mathematica shipped preinstalled on early NeXT systems. SJ recommended some of the UI bits of the notebook. Particularly the separators between cells.
I used Mathematica on a NeXT computer back in 1991. It was a beautiful machine to work on. I did a student project where I simulated the flow of the boundary of a plane region over time (like how the shape of a drop of oil in water changes over time) and it was very, very easy to write in Mathematica with cool graphics.
Re: Wolfram Language and Mathematica version 15
#38I just learned that Stephen Wolfram himself is a bit of a crank apparently.
https://youtu.be/fO9iRDPXvT4?si=CbCjBtOSM5JhgYUF
Re: Wolfram Language and Mathematica version 15
#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm aways surprised that there's no open source language that provides everything you get with Wolfram language. For example, the level of pattern matching you can use when defining functions, as well as the high level of functional composition. It is like having a mix of APL, Lisp, and Prolog that is very productive to use.
Wolfram language is the easy part to implement Its standard library is almost impossible to reproduce in its enterity If those libraries were like regular code that got published to Github or something like that.. like pypi or npm or crates.io or whatever. And if mathematica had a lean standard library. It would be very feasible to implement a clone that's basically compatible I mean. Depending on just wolfram rather…
kimi reproduce this standard lib, make no mistakes
Re: Wolfram Language and Mathematica version 15
#40I always compare the difference between Mathematica/Wolfram Language and Python to the difference between Classical Latin and English.
I don't really like English from a linguistic point of view (as a non-native speaker). It's a hodgepodge of other languages and has so many exceptions, it's not very elegant. But it's so ubiquitous and useful that one basically has to know English today.
On the other hand, Latin is beautiful and pure. There's more rules, but very few exceptions. But unless you study catholic theology or something along those lines, it's basically useless.
Which one maps to Wolfram Language and which one to Python is probably obviously.