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Stop Killing Games fails to secure EU law despite 1.3M signatures

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Re: Stop Killing Games fails to secure EU law despite 1.3M signatures

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Post by Barrin92 »

NooneAtAll3 wrote: post #9

makes me envy of Switzerland's "enough signatures causes referendum which actually does create a new law" system

the Swiss can only propose new constitutional amendments, not statutory laws. And precisely to avoid having what is supposed to be a technical decision into an overly broad popular vote, because those are still supposed to belong into parliamentary debate.

Because if people voted on every single regulation you'd be at the ballot box five times a day.

Re: Stop Killing Games fails to secure EU law despite 1.3M signatures

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Post by kuerbel »

bombcar wrote: post #8
madanparas wrote: post #5

The ECI process forces the Commission to respond formally, not to legislate. The Commission said no, which SKG anticipated. They had already secured a legislative call signed by 45 MEPs and are pushing to amend the Digital Fairness Act through Parliament. The headline frames this as a defeat. Finishing the ECI process shifted the venue to Parliament, where SKG says they have majority support.

Don't look so smug! I know what you're thinking, but The Commission was merely a setback!

Did you honestly believe I would trust the future to some Commission? Hahahaha… Oh no, no, no, it was merely an instrument, a stepping stone to a much larger plan! It has all led to this…and this time, you will not interfere!

Re: Stop Killing Games fails to secure EU law despite 1.3M signatures

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Post by HDBaseT »

hodgehog11 wrote: post #7

As is stated in the article, but is not clear just from the headline, this was not an unexpected outcome from the initiative. The Commission did not seek discussions with SKG, and spent virtually all of their time with the gaming industry lobby groups. SKG was prepared for this, and their intention has been to join up with the group putting together the new Digital Fairness Act, since the objective there is very simi…

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Re: Stop Killing Games fails to secure EU law despite 1.3M signatures

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Post by pull_my_finger »

I'm curious to see if this will embolden game corps to continue mistreating consumers or if they will acknowledge consumers are aware of that ethereal state of their "ownership" of games and start selling more complete products instead of "clients" to servers that can be rug-pulled at any time. I think we all can guess the answer as consumers continue to buy, unfortunately, but this movement is at least a step in the right direction.

Re: Stop Killing Games fails to secure EU law despite 1.3M signatures

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Post by Volundr »

dopa42365 wrote: post #3

Well, it's a million signatures for something to be brought up, not for something to definitely become law. A decade or so ago I (among millions) signed to abolish daylight saving time. Still waiting for that heh.

Trump's said he wants to end it. That's something I'd back him on. I wish he'd sign that executive order and tilt that windmill in the courts instead of the stuff he is pushing. I'd be rooting for him!

Re: Stop Killing Games fails to secure EU law despite 1.3M signatures

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Post by Symbiote »

NooneAtAll3 wrote: post #9

makes me envy of Switzerland's "enough signatures causes referendum which actually does create a new law" system

Proportional to the respective populations, this would have needed roughly four times as many signatures to get to that level in Switzerland.

Re: Stop Killing Games fails to secure EU law despite 1.3M signatures

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Post by f4stjack »

EarlKing wrote: post #6

If only those 1.3 million signatories pledged to never buy from a company that Kills Games again...

Yes. Exactly. I, for one, am following this credo: If your single player game has an “always online” clause; I am not your customer. No ifs, no buts, no “but i like this franchise”s.

Vote with your wallet. Do not hesitate to boycott.

Re: Stop Killing Games fails to secure EU law despite 1.3M signatures

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Post by TylerE »

HDBaseT wrote: post #13
hodgehog11 wrote: post #7

As is stated in the article, but is not clear just from the headline, this was not an unexpected outcome from the initiative. The Commission did not seek discussions with SKG, and spent virtually all of their time with the gaming industry lobby groups. SKG was prepared for this, and their intention has been to join up with the group putting together the new Digital Fairness Act, since the objective there is very simi…

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This is not surprising. The movement has been all about gamer vibes and not technical reality from day one. It should have been rejected, and I'm glad it was.
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