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Apple's weird anti-nausea dots cured my car sickness

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Re: Apple's weird anti-nausea dots cured my car sickness

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Post by Kyselica »

hex4def6 wrote: post #166

In VR, it's well known that your peripheral vision is a cue to your brain to infer motion direction. You can give yourself serious motion sickness in VR if you grab hold of the VR camera and force a roll / pitch in this state. One of the things some games do is during motion create "tunnel vision" when you move, shrinking down the size of the video feed and putting a black border around it. This significantly reduces…

The peripheral receptive fields in the eyes are much bigger than the ones in the center of vision. The smaller center fields are better for detail due to their resolution, while the off center fields are indeed tuned for motion.

Using tunnel vision to blunt motion detection is a clever way to reduce VR motion sickness. It never clicked for me why VR games did that until you brought it up

Re: Apple's weird anti-nausea dots cured my car sickness

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Post by jval43 »

robrtsql wrote: post #12

I gave this feature a try and it didn't work for me. I was curious to see if it was effective, so I asked my wife to drive and I tried to read in the iOS "Books" app with the dots on. I think within 5 or 10 minutes I was feeling pretty sick, and stayed that way for the rest of the drive. Hopefully others have better results. I'll have to stick with audiobooks when in motion.

Same for me, when riding the bus. Really wanted it to work and tried over the course of several weeks, unfortunately it didn't help.

Re: Apple's weird anti-nausea dots cured my car sickness

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Post by King-Aaron »

40four wrote: post #16

Never knew this feature existed! I’ve gotten this type of motion sickness my whole life, so I’m excited to try it out. It would be nice if it’s effective for me. I get the same type of nausea described by the author. I can’t read a book or look at a screen for too long without a feeling awful. I can also get it just from sitting in a rear passenger seat, especially if vehicle has poor visibility, and even worse with…

Yeah I have a similar issue to you. If I look at my phone screen for a few minutes on the bus, I feel like I'm going to vomit. In fact most days that I commute on the bus I feel dreadful the entire way.

Strap me into my race car on the weekend and pull G's in the corners... no problems at all.

Sit me back on the bus, I want to throw up.

The dots on the iPhone do help a little bit. I wouldn't say it cures me, but I can at least check messages on the ride without immediately feeling like death.

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Post by CGamesPlay »

lucb1e wrote: post #143
usef- wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think what he means is that the iPhone dots seem to move based on vehicle acceleration and deceleration, whereas the android ones use all phone motion. If I move my iPhone around in my hands the dots don't move, but on my android they do (ie are simulating a stable horizon as the phone tilts, immediately). I don't know which is more effective. I thought the iPhone one was broken at first and didn't have the best re…

That's strange, any idea how it could be able to differentiate? My only guess is some sort of processing, like wait and see if it follows the expected acceleration pattern (moderate initial acceleration from the unexpected-to-the-user car motion, followed by a stronger acceleration in the same direction as one's hands push the phone to keep it in the same visual place) but I'd assume such lag is precisely the issue V…

It doesn't seem to actually differentiate at all. If I move my iPhone around on a plane (table), the dots move. If I hold in in my hand and move left/right, the dots move. If I hold it in my hand and raise/lower my arm, the dots don't move. That's actually just an integration of acceleration/gyro, and possibly combined with a simple model of how a phone is held (e.g. assume rotations happen from a point 30cm away from the bottom of the phone).

Re: Apple's weird anti-nausea dots cured my car sickness

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Post by linzhangrun »

advisedwang wrote: post #14

Seems like there's a few android equivalents: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.panshen.mo... https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.urbandroid... And even one that claims to work with sound: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.samsung.a1... EDIT: Actually there's an enormous number of apps like this, many released very recently with similar style etc. Weird.

I found my Xiaomi 13 (Hyper OS 3) also has this feature.

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Post by cubefox »

dillutedfixer wrote: post #163
dhosek wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have the same issue your mom does. First-person shooters give me motion sickness (which is why I never got past the first level of Wolfenstein back in the day). Maybe the newer FPS games would be better for my brain, but I don’t have much interest in trying.

I started getting nausea from FPS games around the time I got into my 30s. It was when Fallout 4 came out and I just had to play that game. So I did some research and found out about sea-bands. Theyre for morning sickness that pregnant women get. They worked wonders for my FPS nausea. I was able to play through many games after that without getting sick. Put them on about 10 mins before playing and wear them for the…

Interesting, I never heard of those bands. The standard method for decreasing motion sickness in FPS games is widening the FoV and turning off features like screen shake.

Re: Apple's weird anti-nausea dots cured my car sickness

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Post by makeitdouble »

bmitc wrote: post #172

Weird title and article. Isn't that article the point of that feature? "Feature meant to do did . This and more later."

"Feature touted to do actually did for me" is newsworthy.

We're out from WWDC and a ton of marketing claims and PR has been thrown around. Taking any company's claim for granted would be foolish, and it is truly welcomed that they did try the feature and found some basis to the claims. I wish we had more of those.

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