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GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17
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Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17
#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
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TBF if Google locked down the devices like that it would be a GPL violation. Not their first or whatever but still, there's a reason for them not to do that beside "being nice"
Would it? IANAL, but AIUI the only GPL component is Linux on GPLv2 which requires providing code but not giving the ability to install it
Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17
#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
We took control, we're keeping control
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Your point is valid and yeah, it's a never-ending fight just to keep the control we have. Things like the Play Protect API and loads of Android apps being coupled to Play Services is it's own big challenge we're stuck with just to stay within the Android ecosystem
Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17
#114What are North American people doing for replacing contactless payment? Last time I checked, the solution was to use Curve but it only works for Europe.
Cash for most things, and just use a card like normal otherwise. I don't really see the appeal of contactless payment, pulling a card out really doesn't take much time.
Just having to take your phone with you is quite comfortable. Your phone is probably the pocket-sized item you are unlikeliest to lose.
Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17
#115That Motorola phone that lets you install Graphene can not come soon enough. Pixel phones are not sold worldwide so it feels like they're gatekeeping security. I know that's not the case really, but there's very few ways to successfully degoogle otherwise.
This is a thing now
Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17
#116I've been running GrapheneOS for 7 months now and I'm not going back. When I bought my Pixel 10 last year, I wasn't actually planning on trying Graphene for a while....until I noticed Google had force bundled a 'Wicked For Good' movie promo theme with the latest security update.
What's the app data backup/restore story on GrapheneOS? My understanding is that even with pseudo-D2D (device-to-device) transfers Seedvault doesn't backup everything[1]. Are there more-functional, non-root, local (non-cloud) alternatives? [1]: https://github.com/seedvault-app/seedvault/wiki/FAQ#why-do-s...
Not without root, no
Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17
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We took control, we're keeping control
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What you are describing is not Google’s alturism but keeping competition in check. If Google didn’t “allow” GrapheneOS it opens up a new market segment for other smartphone manufacturers. Apple really cashed in on privacy for a few years so it’s not unfathomable that Xiaomi or someone else goes all in on “privacy focused android” in absence of pixel+graphene combo.
Edit: Apparently Motorola is doing just that.
Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17
#118That Motorola phone that lets you install Graphene can not come soon enough. Pixel phones are not sold worldwide so it feels like they're gatekeeping security. I know that's not the case really, but there's very few ways to successfully degoogle otherwise.
This is a thing now https://volla.online/en/operating-systems/volla-os/
I don't see anything they offer for security that's not also in AOSP/LineageOS/eOS/stock/etc.
Which is not to say that's not enough for most people, but why highlight them? It doesn't seem comparable to the laser-focus GrapheneOS has on security
Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17
#119The post doesn't say - what's new? Anything to look forward to besides the security patches for A17 being available for longer than they will be for A16? Asking as an A11 user who will probably soon need to switch to a new device. I haven't noticed anything on other people's phones that isn't available on mine, including on my work phone that runs an up-to-date GrapheneOS (but I don't need to do much more than callin…
Desktop mode is new and exciting. This should have the full list; it's not a ton of changes, which speaks to how perfected Android has become. https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2026/06/Android-17...
Ah, right I forgot they are discontinuing ChromeOS. Makes sense that current Android releases are focused on getting the Android laptop experience on par
Edit: not discontinued but 'merge with Android' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ChromeOS
Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17
#120Well, for some reason Pixel 9 series and also 10 pro is excluded?