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Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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Maybe they've started seeing sites ban @icloud.com addresses

Which has more market pull: Some web site or Apple?

iCloud email isn't very popular. I always have to spell it out verbally if someone asks, and sometimes they end up emailing @gmail.com anyway.

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

#192

Pro tip for doing something like this without apple. Buy or get a cheap domain name. Create a subdomain on it and have it catch and forward all messages to you when sent to that sub. For example: nytimes@mailsub.example.com -> jono@gmail anything-else@mailsub.example.com -> jono@gmail You dont even need to materialize aliases at all.

iCloud itself does this for you if you bring your own domain fyi

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

#193
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For me personally, Hide My Email is binding me to the Apple ecosystem more than iMessage (but I'm European).

Does it? I use Hide My Email largely without integration to the Apple ecosystem - I generate new emails on icloud.com and copy/paste them to login forms before saving to 1Password.

Same, Hide My Email is pretty much the only Apple service I use and the aliases are only for accounts I don't really care about.

I use this wonderful extension to make it easy to generate aliases https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/icloud-hide-my-emai...

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

#194

> If you use iCloud+ and Hide My Email, there is still time to generate more aliases on @icloud.com as the change has not yet landed and the rate limit for creating aliases is at least 30 per hour. Part of the reason to use Hide My Email was that it made keeping myself private hassle-free. Making a system to pre-generate values and then catalog them for later use is quite the hassle.

we need s script to make date aliases for the next 10 years so one has a email for each day

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

#195

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So I guess the solution is just to begin to allow accounts to always register multiple emails? Although I guess the issue of multiple accounts is still going to exist if the users don't know the initial (private) email that they signed up with though unless there is a different unique ID that everyone will be able to remember. I'm curious (and not trolling by asking) what a solution might be since email has been used…

Just a regular old username + password, kind of like HN allows?

I feel like email overtook usernames because it was more likely to be unique/memorable. I hate when websites ask me to remember a username (even though I'm using a password manager so I should really just calm down.)

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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I'm curious what you think the difference is between "a paying iCloud user" and "an anonymous rando off the internet." How many Apple gift cards do you reckon get sent to fraudsters every day? Decades worth of iCloud+ surely. I'm running a business where I need to know who you are, because my platform can be used defraud other people. If you're trying to hide who you are from our very first interaction, that's a mass…

It sounds like you are trying to shoehorn email into some kind of “real person verification” role, when you ought to be doing actual KYC through some provider like ID.me. (If honest to god no-shit fraud is on the table.)

If I can filter/throttle fraudsters at the create account step for free, I save on the fees my KYC/IDV providers charge each time they attempt to defeat it.

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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It sounds like you are trying to shoehorn email into some kind of “real person verification” role, when you ought to be doing actual KYC through some provider like ID.me. (If honest to god no-shit fraud is on the table.)

If I can filter/throttle fraudsters at the create account step for free, I save on the fees my KYC/IDV providers charge each time they attempt to defeat it.

At the cost of blocking legitimate users who don’t want to be spammed, don’t want to be correlated after a data breach, etc.

I have been willing to do KYC for services (usually financial) without giving out my main email. Services that put up too many barriers to this don’t get my business. I concede that there aren’t that many users like me, compared to the general public, but I’m a legitimate user.

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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Nothing breaks when you switch. You just can't create more private icloud addresses. I recently switched back to Android and can still use my old icloud logins.

But what happen if you stop paying $1 / month?

If you cancel iCloud+, all the aliases remain active. As parent said, you just can't create more of them.

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

#200
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Are there really? I don't think I've ever encountered such a service in all the years I've been using an email address under my own domain. And blocking every email address that's not from a big provider means blocking basically everyone who tries to sign up with their company email, which might not be great for business.

in asia it is frequent that email domain is a dropdown not a type in

Asia is huge. Please be more explicit (if you can).
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