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Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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Post by BiteCode_dev »

wartijn_ wrote: post #86
LordDragonfang wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you mean "set up an equivalent service" under your own domain, that's both less private and more likely to be blocked; there are a lot of services which, unfortunately, only allow sign-ups from big, well-known domains.

Are there really? I don't think I've ever encountered such a service in all the years I've been using an email address under my own domain. And blocking every email address that's not from a big provider means blocking basically everyone who tries to sign up with their company email, which might not be great for business.

Yes, espacially exotic tld. I have a ".email" domain name, and I get 2 to 3 instances a year of either rejected forms, or sneakier, just confirmation email that never come until I use a .com address.

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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Post by teekert »

I use Proton aliases everywhere...Well not everywhere, there are indeed quite some places that don't accept a passmail.net address... So I can imagine this becoming a useless feature, at least on some sites.

Btw I only use these aliases for sites where I don't mind loosing the login, otherwise it would the mother of all lock-ins... Would have been nice if I could opt for aliases on my own (secondary?) domain... At least then I could still move them (using wildcards or some exported list).

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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Post by SXX »

switz wrote: post #92
jonotime wrote: post #82

Pro tip for doing something like this without apple. Buy or get a cheap domain name. Create a subdomain on it and have it catch and forward all messages to you when sent to that sub. For example: nytimes@mailsub.example.com -> jono@gmail anything-else@mailsub.example.com -> jono@gmail You dont even need to materialize aliases at all.

I do this. The awkward thing is when I am in person or on the phone and have to explain that my customer email address is [their_business_name]@my_weird_domain.tld But the people usually just nod along. The other downside is that it's forward-in only, wish I could proxy responses without setting up a whole new inbox (and outbox).

Its not the worst.

I was once on the phone with german insurance provider and they dictateted me email to send documents to: kundenbetreuung@passportcard.de

I dont speak German so it was both tough and funny EuroTrip-like moment.

Yes its really email they use.

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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Post by Slash65 »

drnick1 wrote: post #65
muse900 wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes but not always applicable unfortunately… e.g. the other day I was in Italy, I needed to park on the publicly available parking which was paid to the municipality. No other parking available anywhere near in 30 mins walking distance. (paid or free) I had to download a 3rd party app that asked me to register. This app isn’t by the Italian government, it’s affiliated though. So in that situation, I want nothing to d…

Can you not pay with cash or card anywhere? What if you don't have a "smart" phone? I would categorically refuse to park anywhere that requires running a proprietary app on my device. Fortunately, in the States at least, I have not encountered such a place yet.

In my city in Northern California our downtown uses an app for parking now. I don’t use it so it’s still an option, but you have to goto a kiosk, enter your license plate number, and pay with card. It’s made the downtown more of a ghost town (admittedly it was already dying) and the boomers with cash just don’t go. The younger 20somethings all complain “boomers are too stupid to use an app” and have no concern for privacy apparently. Welcome to the future I guess.

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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Post by mthoms »

darknoon wrote: post #76
wxw wrote: post #13

I pay for Fastmail just for masked email and its integration with 1Password.

I frequently run into scenarios where it won't let me generate the email within 1password on a website, and I have to go to Fastmail and then manually do it. Is this something you have bene able to work around?

Same problem here.

I sure wish 1Password + Fastmail would let you generate them within the 1Password app without requiring a browser sign-up page in the middle.

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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Post by mdasen »

trollbridge wrote: post #119

In the flip side, someone who blocks private.iCloud.com will block the ability to do SSO with Apple, thereby cutting themselves off from Apple’s ecosystem.

Not really. You could allow private.icloud.com only if they're using Apple's SSO. If someone tries to create an account not using Apple's SSO, then you don't allow private.icloud.com email addresses.

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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Post by Bender »

toast0 wrote: post #78
reaperducer wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I ran into this with an NVMO mobile provider. As of about six months ago, AT&T's web site would not accept email addresses without a three-character TLD. I had to get a customer service person on the phone to manually change my address.

Even .us ??? Pretty sure I used my usual domain (enslaves.us) with them for wireless and california landline and u-verse.

Just a guess but .us does not permit whois privacy and perhaps that may be a factor but I am entirely guessing as all my domains have whois privacy enabled and they would not say why their system rejected my domains.

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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Post by chucksmash »

SXX wrote: post #51
reaperducer wrote: post #45

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You could've at least checked my profile... Problem is that using of own domain is creating huge privacy and cybersecurity risk since you can track all the person profiles across all the databases ever leaked. Its nice as vanity item, but it's better not to use same domain across banks, online forums and porn sites. ;-)

1. Create a domain like myquickanonemailaccount.com.

2. Use the domain exclusively for hosting your own mail, but create a fake account creation page that just temporarily doesn't work.

3. As an added bonus, should you one day get a subpoena for information about one of your site user's online activities, you've got like a 24 hour head start on fleeing the country.

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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Post by lukeify »

Hnrobert42 wrote: post #89
LordDragonfang wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you mean "set up an equivalent service" under your own domain, that's both less private and more likely to be blocked; there are a lot of services which, unfortunately, only allow sign-ups from big, well-known domains.

Nah. I have hosted my domain for 17 years on google and then fastmail. The hosting is harder than private relay, although not too hard. But I have only had maybe 3 services ever reject my domain, and those were because the domain contains a number.

Within the space of 2 weeks I had both Etsy and Mapbox block signups with Proton Mail aliases. The practice is rapidly becoming more common.
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