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The 90-year-old idea behind JEPA models: Canonical Correlation Analysis

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As the saying goes: correlation is not causation

OTOH prediction doesn't necessarily reflect causation either, but prediction is what JEPA is about, how our brain/intelligence works, and one of the great confirmations of LLMs is how powerful prediction errors are as a learning signal.

JEPA appears a step in the right direction of trying to build a brain rather than a language model - to use prediction the way the brain uses it to predict the future (not an historical frozen training set), and learn a real world model of how the world behaves. Any JEPA implementations I've read about use a Transformer as their predictive component since even prediction (and certainly not correlation) is not where JEPA is innovating - it is more about applying prediction to the right problem (assuming the goal is to implement animal/human intelligence) of predicting sensory inputs at the right level of representation.

A recent JEPA variant, Causal-JEPA, moves beyond just infilling to predict object state from object interactions (i.e. to learn causal predictive relationships).

https://arxiv.org/pdf/2602.11389

Re: The 90-year-old idea behind JEPA models: Canonical Correlation Analysis

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Obviously it's great that those who are only aware of JEPA should be educated about CCA. If you don't know CCA, you should not be working in unsupervised learning. However, it's pretty obvious that they are related since CCA is (or should be) well-known to be among the original unsupervised learning algorithms. It's the progenitor of the field. It works, it always did. Just like logistic regression for classification…

> Obviously it's great that those who are only aware of JEPA should be educated about CCA. If you don't know CCA, you should not be working in unsupervised learning.

man, it's great i didnt know about this rule earlier or there is a lot of stuff i wouldn't have learned in the meantime. but now that i do maybe i can go read about this and kick around some of the more stubborn collapse cases im hitting, my dang jepas keep figuring out how to cheat.

edit: oh this looks like its just whiten and rotate and its saying the jepa stuff is the nonlinear bit

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