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Google Chrome update will close the door on ad blockers

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Re: Google Chrome update will close the door on ad blockers

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post #64

Naive question: will it not be possible for ad blockers to upgrade to ManifestV3? Is there something about it that makes ad blocking much harder. What does Manifest actually do?

Most ad blockers do already use MV3, uBlock Origin is the only one still using V2 as far as I know. There are some drawbacks to V3, however none prevent creating an effective ad blocker, as demonstrated by the fact that many exist. Though saying that doesn't make for nearly as effective clickbait...

If this is clickbait, you are a google shill. The limitations of v3 are very clearly explained on the ublock homepage:

uBlock Origin used the webRequest API to intercept and block network requests in real-time. The replacement declarativeNetRequest API has hard limits on the number of filter rules (previously 30,000, now 330,000) and lacks the dynamic filtering capabilities that made uBlock Origin so effective.

    Cannot use all filter lists simultaneously (rule limits apply)
    No cosmetic filtering in the default mode
    No scriptlet injection by default
    Limited dynamic filtering capabilities
    Requires broader host permissions upfront

Re: Google Chrome update will close the door on ad blockers

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post #123

I do not mind advertising on websites. What I mind is bad ads, ads with malware, way too many ads, and ads that track me. This is where Google gets the whole ad thing wrong. They are focusing on the wrong problem. If you think about the economics of it, a very popular website could survive on only on ad because the advertiser would pay a premium to be seen on the website. So that is my other argument, bad websites ne…

The thing is that they don’t care about what you and I mind or don’t mind. The only goal is to maximize profit to shareholders. Our only option is to use ad blockers for now.

Re: Google Chrome update will close the door on ad blockers

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post #126

And I won't even notice. Firefox is probably the most divisive topic on this website. Mozilla gets ripped to shreds any time they're discussed, but they keep the open internet alive. I don't see how any self-respecting Hacker could choose anything else. I'm a big fan of critique, critiquing the scaffolding of our lives is the best thing we can do. That said...... we have nearly lost the browser wars and if we do it w…

I prefer an ad (and porn, gambling, social media) blocking host file myself.

Necessary, but not sufficient. Sometimes you want to block certain URLs and not whole domains.

Re: Google Chrome update will close the door on ad blockers

#135

And I won't even notice. Firefox is probably the most divisive topic on this website. Mozilla gets ripped to shreds any time they're discussed, but they keep the open internet alive. I don't see how any self-respecting Hacker could choose anything else. I'm a big fan of critique, critiquing the scaffolding of our lives is the best thing we can do. That said...... we have nearly lost the browser wars and if we do it w…

I use Safari, and it’s good.

Re: Google Chrome update will close the door on ad blockers

#136
post #122

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Most would not consider MV3 versions as ”adblockers” anymore.

Yeah, I think calling the Mv3 versions "secure adblockers" would be more accurate.

Secure for whom?

Re: Google Chrome update will close the door on ad blockers

#137
post #122

Bad headline. Popular ad blockers have already switched to MV3, and MV2 has already been disabled for all users.

Most would not consider MV3 versions as ”adblockers” anymore.

Most (real world, not HN) users don't really notice any difference between MV2 and MV3 based extensions.

Re: Google Chrome update will close the door on ad blockers

#138
post #20

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Just a shame its a tiny bit slower than chromium based browsers still (the ui, not the web page rendering), and you dont have to take my word for it, a web search for something like 'firefox sluggish compared to chrome' will back this up too as I've tried switching multiple times but always end up back on a chromium variant because the firefox ui just doesn't feel like an upgrade. Personally I've just given up trying…

Let me know how fast the internet without working ad block feels... (Personally I find Firefox is plenty fast! And the benefits vastly outweigh trying to deal with a Google-powered web browser.)

I dont need to, as I said I'm on brave, which isnt losing its adblocker.

Re: Google Chrome update will close the door on ad blockers

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And I won't even notice. Firefox is probably the most divisive topic on this website. Mozilla gets ripped to shreds any time they're discussed, but they keep the open internet alive. I don't see how any self-respecting Hacker could choose anything else. I'm a big fan of critique, critiquing the scaffolding of our lives is the best thing we can do. That said...... we have nearly lost the browser wars and if we do it w…

Because Mozilla allocates far too much of their budget to executive compensation, which has led to the layoff of many Firefox maintainers, including the entire Servo team.

A self-respecting hacker would choose a piece of tech that is well-maintained, not one that only recently added profile support after all these years, or one that still offers an ancient bookmark and history UI.

Re: Google Chrome update will close the door on ad blockers

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How so?

Yeah. Take Firefox choosing to create PDF.js to have a clean minimalist sandboxed PDF parser. Chrome instead used an existing one that has been the source of dozens of vulnerabilities.

Or Firefox pulling in a ton of anti-fingerprinting measures from the Tor team. Not even worth talking about anti-fingerprinting as a serious consideration in Chrome.

Rust - a mozilla effort that resulted in code from servo being pulled into Firefox - chrome is headed that way too.

Even WASM was definitely a security improvement over NaCL, and Mozilla also led the way on Flash replacements in the day, making one of the first JS flash players (in the end, the solution was no more flash, but hey, at least they tried).

Font sanitisation - originally a mozilla security effort...

I feel I could go on and on.

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