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Post by dlubarov »

sosomoxie wrote: post #267
FunnyUsername wrote: post #262

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Judaism isn't just a religion; Israel happily accepts non-religious Jews. The goal was to solve a massive refugee problem for a persecuted group with nowhere else to go. In any case, as a sovereign state, Israel gets to decide on its own immigration policy, regardless of how foreigners feel about it.

Judaism is in fact, just a religion. Zionists are not refugees, they are colonists. They didn’t need to “go” anywhere and regardless of need, never had the right to set foot in Palestine. > regardless of how foreigners feel about it. Without the US, Israel will cease to exist. It’s my problem to deal with as a US citizen.

> Judaism is in fact, just a religion

Never heard of non-religious Jews or Jewish atheism before?

Re: Stanford grads walk out on Google CEO Sundar Pichai speech

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Post by sosomoxie »

dlubarov wrote: post #291
sosomoxie wrote: post #267

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Judaism is in fact, just a religion. Zionists are not refugees, they are colonists. They didn’t need to “go” anywhere and regardless of need, never had the right to set foot in Palestine. > regardless of how foreigners feel about it. Without the US, Israel will cease to exist. It’s my problem to deal with as a US citizen.

> Judaism is in fact, just a religion Never heard of non-religious Jews or Jewish atheism before?

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Re: Stanford grads walk out on Google CEO Sundar Pichai speech

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Post by philistine »

Sabinus wrote: post #277
Sabinus wrote: post #265

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If the IRA's demands were that the British had to accept enough Irish migration to become a minority in their country (the right of return) somehow I don't think their despicable methods would have paid off. The difference between the Irish and the Palestinians is the Irish took a real compromise and peace deal. They didn't demand the instant return of Northern Ireland and refuse all compromise to that issue, committ…

Edit/clarification: I forgot about British multiculturalism. You would have to imagine Britain had similar 'national and ethnic trauma' to Israel for first IRA example to really work.

The IRA's goal was to unite Northern Ireland with the rest of Ireland. That goal, while not as hard to attain as the right of return, was still unacceptable to the UK. The IRA achieved some of its goals, and clearly decided to bide their time in peace. The Palestinians could hope for the same sort of partial victory, with a negotiated peace with the Israelis.

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

sillyfluke wrote: post #233
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #88

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Wait, you mean there is “no excuse for what Israel is doing” and “Hamas kidnapping and murdering Israelis” was just a distraction? This is why we should just move on to EVs and stop getting involved at all in the Middle East. I see no morally right way of engaging with either side. Both positions seem to end in “let one side genocide the other side.”

> Wait, you mean there is “no excuse for what Israel is doing” and “Hamas kidnapping and murdering Israelis” was just a distraction? Wait, you mean the same Hamas that Israel knowingly funded, the same one Netanyahu bragged about funding? [0] "For years Netanyah propped up Hamas. Now it has blown up in our face." https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up... [1] "Netanyahu admits funding Hamas with…

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Post by iwontberude »

xnx wrote: post #175
iwontberude wrote: post #149

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Not to be crass buts it’s basically slave labor with free lunch

free lunch and hundreds of thousands of dollars per year in total compenasation.

They are notoriously stingy and underpay.

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Post by dang »

sosomoxie wrote: post #292
dlubarov wrote: post #291

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> Judaism is in fact, just a religion Never heard of non-religious Jews or Jewish atheism before?

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Post by krembo »

yodsanklai wrote: post #248
krembo wrote: post #232

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What happens in Gaza is first and foremost Hamas to blame, thus I hold zero empathy for the Gaza people, and second, nonetheless important, does not withstand any definition of the term "genocide". If Israel wanted to commit a genocide they would finish the job within a week, the fact that there are so many surgical operations and methods like "knock on the roof" shows Israel are doing their best efforts to avoid civ…

> Israel are doing their best efforts to avoid civilian casualties. According to wikipedia, there have been 80K people killed in Gaza, 80% are civilians, 30% are children. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Gaza_war > it is a very weird way from Israel's point of view to make what you call genocide. It's not me who calls that a genocide. That's becoming the consensus on how it's being called outside of I…

Based on WHO data which is based on The Palestinian Ministry of Health data. Well I guess this is one credible source of truth.

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Post by bigyabai »

spwa4 wrote: post #288
karmakurtisaani wrote: post #286

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To be frank, from your first message I knew there was no winning with you. Seen it so many times. It gets old.

What gets old in your kinds of arguments is the constant diversion of focus away from Palestinians, what they do and the reasons, the agency behind it. Because arguments like yours fall to pieces even touching that festering pool of filth. THAT gets old. Really old.

Nothing that karmakurtisaani said was antisemetic. They called out the link between Netanyahu and Hamas, and that caused you to go ballistic calling them names and demanding that they acknowledge your nonsequitur.

If you're committed to hasbara, at least don't make it obvious. When you call people an antisemite, you undermine your own credibility and fall off of Paul Grahams hierarchy of disagreement.

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