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Commodore Releases Flip Phone

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Re: Commodore Releases Flip Phone

#61
I really like the concept, but I think the restrictions are a double-edged sword.

The form factor and Sailfish are a lot more appealing than 'apps blocked at a system level'.

Can it run the usual apps like banking apps which can be particular about Android 'trustworthiness'?

Unfortunately, a smartphone is a near-necessity for various things like that now.

Re: Commodore Releases Flip Phone

#62

Some scepticism here I see, but personally I think this is spot-on. I've been keen on a dumber phone for a while, but losing whatsapp & maps makes it a non-starter for any real use. This is an excellent middle ground. The aesthetic is cool, and building this on Sailfish but with Android compatibility is awesome. Big fan of the concept.

maps exist, you must have missed that... as for whatsapp, I have never used it once, and yet my phone provides "real use" (whatever that means).

You are not a representative user, at least in a country where WhatsApp is dominant.

Re: Commodore Releases Flip Phone

#63
post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1. If you're not based in a country where SMS was included free, it was/is advantageous to use something delivered over the Internet, rather than carrier. 2. It allowed for sharing multimedia better. 3. It closed the divide between Android and iOS, giving a singular experience across the two systems. 4. Prior to RCS, it allowed for typing notifications, high resolution media, read receipts, etc whereas SMS did not of…

But it's Meta, yuck! Better use Signal or Telegram.

Right, but if absolutely everybody you know is on WhatsApp and have no desire to move to Signal or Telegram, chances are you're going to end up using WhatsApp regardless of your feelings toward Meta.

Re: Commodore Releases Flip Phone

#64
I really want to like this, but as someone who's daily driven Sailfish before (albeit not in a while), one of the things you'll likely miss if you're in the US is group MMS support.

Maybe Commodore is paying Jolla enough that they'll be able to add group MMS support by the time this launches? But if not... it's something you might not even think could be missing, and not having it can be a problem if people expect to be able to send you group texts.

Re: Commodore Releases Flip Phone

#65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then it's not literally for you and people who are dependent on social media. It's almost like there is a growing populace who don't want to be there 24/7. Also most people would access the needed sites or social media via laptop or desktop. Not to mention that you feel that it's "corny nostalgia-bait" gives me vibes that you are younger than the target audience of this device even is.

I use zero social medias and I have a phone that wouldn’t tell me no if I (a grown adult) did want to use them. In fact I’d believe this is exactly for social media addicts because needing to be blocked from even accessing the domains by your OS to not use them is truly something. And it is nostalgia bait. Wide sweeping nostalgia bait (C64 and Y2K). Corny nostalgia bait because surfing on pre social media Internet an…

I wouldn't worry so much about it. Why spend time even thinking about something you don't want to buy?

Re: Commodore Releases Flip Phone

#67

I really like the concept, but I think the restrictions are a double-edged sword. The form factor and Sailfish are a lot more appealing than 'apps blocked at a system level'. Can it run the usual apps like banking apps which can be particular about Android 'trustworthiness'? Unfortunately, a smartphone is a near-necessity for various things like that now.

The restrictions are a good fit for children under 16.

As a parent you want to be able to reach them, and they want to reach their friend.

And as a parent you not want them waste their minds on YouTube garbage.

Re: Commodore Releases Flip Phone

#68
post #51

$120 max and I’m feeling generous. If it had an option to install a messenger of choice (Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp etc) then maybe $140-150. The whole "people want their data and privacy and all" is becoming the next premium service and/or product and I don’t like that at all.

I saw the "Get $50 off!" and thought "Oh cool, maybe I could get this for $150!" then checked the actual page and saw $499... absolutely not.

Also the whole store page just feels off. The weird mix of "beige" and furtiger-aero-esque imagery is confusing, and my gut hunch is that there's some AI images here. I understand they're trying to appeal to 2 different nostalgias, but it just doesn't mix. And for something allegedly releasing at the end of this month, there's a disappointing lack of images of actual devices.

The "founders edition" being gold plated just seems kinda tone deaf? There was recently a different controversial gold phone that I am immediately thinking about and I don't think that connection should really exist. $140 more for gold plating?

And their feature comparison down at the bottom has the Lightphone 3 with red X's for "swappable battery and back cover" and "blocks social media", which are definitely both features of the LP3? Unless you want to be pedantic and say that the LP3 doesn't block social media because you can modify it in an unauthorized way to allow installing Android apps, but I'd be willing to bet you'll be able to do the same with this Commodore phone) And they add an extra $40 to the MSRP to the other devices to account for the "value" of the headphones included with the commodore phone? And on that note, what's the line "*Earphones sold separately – price includes $40 headset comparable to Light Phone III & Callback" mean? Why's the LP3 in that line? It doesn't include headphones. (I'm just picking on this in particular because I own a LP3 and have direct experience with it)

Re: Commodore Releases Flip Phone

#69

$500??

what? you made choke.... Where I live, those kind of flip phones used to normal price €€ to 100something€ back then, how we ended at 500? I must ask if it's going to make coffee too haha.

Unlike many flip phones, there is smartphone hardware inside capable of running Android apps — except that it is only a curated selection from Commodore's own app store.

The cost of running the app store is probably included.

Smaller production runs also mean higher price.

BTW, early adopters can get up to $100 off. (pre-order discount + discount code in the newsletter)

Re: Commodore Releases Flip Phone

#70
post #51

$120 max and I’m feeling generous. If it had an option to install a messenger of choice (Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp etc) then maybe $140-150. The whole "people want their data and privacy and all" is becoming the next premium service and/or product and I don’t like that at all.

> If it had an option to install a messenger of choice (Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp etc) It has that capability. From TFA: > A flip phone with the apps you need: WhatsApp, Signal, Telegram. Music, podcasts, maps, rideshare, a great camera for the moments worth keeping.

Oh I've missed that, thanks!
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