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Humanity isn't ready for the coming intelligence explosion

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Re: Humanity isn't ready for the coming intelligence explosion

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post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But I do live with it. It lives in my kitchen.

In the pecking order, it is under, not on your side. Your toaster never demanded you to make a toast.

That makes me think of talkie toaster from Red Dwarf though.

Re: Humanity isn't ready for the coming intelligence explosion

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Why is someone from Planet Labs writing this? Why not, for example, Geoffrey Hinton, the scientist who won the nobel prize for LLM architecture? Or a sci-fi author?

People seem to oddly not care what Hinton thinks anymore after he hasn't aligned with the groupthink naysaying of AGI risks:

'Hinton said there was a “10% to 20%” chance that AI would lead to human extinction within the next three decades.'

“Because the situation we’re in now is that most of the experts in the field think that sometime, within probably the next 20 years, we’re going to develop AIs that are smarter than people. And that’s a very scary thought.”

“My worry is that the invisible hand is not going to keep us safe. So just leaving it to the profit motive of large companies is not going to be sufficient to make sure they develop it safely,” he said. “The only thing that can force those big companies to do more research on safety is government regulation.”

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/dec/27/godfather...

Re: Humanity isn't ready for the coming intelligence explosion

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Why is someone from Planet Labs writing this? Why not, for example, Geoffrey Hinton, the scientist who won the nobel prize for LLM architecture? Or a sci-fi author?

Because the scientists and mathematicians and sci-fi authors have all already been writing about this for the past 20 years (and I mean non-fiction writing), and nobody cared, giving similar dismissals instead.

I believe Hinton dismissed it a lot over those 20 years

Re: Humanity isn't ready for the coming intelligence explosion

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't mean everything you can think of is possible. People who say every jobs will be automated never held any tool more advanced than a screwdriver and never worked a single day outside of an air conditioned office. They were predicting flying cars for "the year 2000"...

But enough jobs are going to be automated that it will cause social and economic chaos, and political breakdown. Sure AI can't attach an air conditioning unit outside my window nor use a plunger on my toilet but it can still replace lawyers, secretaries, software devs, and many more jobs.

I'm curious: how will it replace e.g. lawyers? Will judges be replaced as well? Juries?

Re: Humanity isn't ready for the coming intelligence explosion

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post #154

We don't need to live "side by side" with AI. AI is not alive, it's a technology we use. This is like talking about living side by side with your toaster.

Why is AI not alive

It has no body, metabolism or reproductive capability. It's a process, not an entity.

Re: Humanity isn't ready for the coming intelligence explosion

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Why is someone from Planet Labs writing this? Why not, for example, Geoffrey Hinton, the scientist who won the nobel prize for LLM architecture? Or a sci-fi author?

People seem to oddly not care what Hinton thinks anymore after he hasn't aligned with the groupthink naysaying of AGI risks: 'Hinton said there was a “10% to 20%” chance that AI would lead to human extinction within the next three decades.' “Because the situation we’re in now is that most of the experts in the field think that sometime, within probably the next 20 years, we’re going to develop AIs that are smarter th…

Hinton also said we should stop training radiologists 10 years ago because it would be solved by AI.

Re: Humanity isn't ready for the coming intelligence explosion

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How far are we from reliable AI? One that could, for example, handle 80% of office jobs without screwing up more than humans?

Society is completely changed if that happens and humanity should be setting up backup plans to handle this potential. I did see Trump mention he's going to meet with AI companies who want to propose giving all American's stock which could be one way this money driven society continues when tons are no longer working.

Another concept I thought was AI is irrelevant without our content, so AI should pay all humans to access all the content we create daily (voice & text conversations we have with each other, as well our photos and videos). We choose what to publish to our websites (everyone has one, but AI agents cant access it without paying for access to our websites). I wrote more about this concept on my substack https://ryanspahn.substack.com/p/ai-to-pay-for-all-americans... ... just one thought of keeping this money economy going when so many coud no longer are working cause the white collar jobs are gone.

Re: Humanity isn't ready for the coming intelligence explosion

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We don't need to live "side by side" with AI. AI is not alive, it's a technology we use. This is like talking about living side by side with your toaster.

"Alive" is irrelevant. Bullshit like "alive", "sentient" or "conscious" doesn't decide much, at the day's end. It just distracts from the thing that matters. And the thing that matters is: capability. Even today's AIs are capable of autonomous goal-oriented agentic behavior - and growing more and more so with every release. At sufficient capability, AI stops being "a technology we use", and becomes a force in itself…

What does AI want? Without ambitions you have to be told what to do.
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