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Humanity isn't ready for the coming intelligence explosion

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Re: Humanity isn't ready for the coming intelligence explosion

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> Experts in artificial intelligence estimate... The predictions of these "experts" have been drastically wrong for the last 3 years. At what point does someone lose their "expert" title?

It’s hard to take seriously a statement like this that’s grounded in “the last three years” when trends have tended to play out over decades. The fact the goal posts have moved from thousands to hundreds to decades to single digit years for massive transformation should give you a moment of pause in your bag saying.

I would however agree there are no experts. Not because of some prediction made on a short time scale not landing 100% but that there are literally no experts because expertise takes experience which takes time. There are no experts and no one knows what happens next. We are on the verge of where the foresight of science fiction effectively -ends-, the advent of AI is when things go a thousand possible directions and the stories stop there (sans a few like accelerando, but even then the story just plays out the end of thinking mass). No one knows what’s next, or when.

In fact I’d assert in many areas being discussed -it has already happened- and we don’t know it, and by the time we do it’ll be over. Not to be breathless, but there’s no reason to believe today some AI researcher somewhere didn’t build the first AGI and not be totally aware. And once they are there’s no reason to believe it’s going to be on the evening news or hacker news. By the time it’s ready for commercializing and disclosing it’ll be around for a while. Likewise with general purpose robots, autonomous weapons (btw already tested by Ukraine), etc.

Re: Humanity isn't ready for the coming intelligence explosion

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I think it is so reckless and unethical that AI companies are not spending good money on answering the political, social, economical, moral questions that they are raising.

Would you rather have the AI companies answer those questions, or your elected government?

Fwiw, the AI companies have been saying a lot about these questions should be answered. Whether you want their answers is another story.

Re: Humanity isn't ready for the coming intelligence explosion

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post #22
post #17

I think it is so reckless and unethical that AI companies are not spending good money on answering the political, social, economical, moral questions that they are raising.

Would you rather have the AI companies answer those questions, or your elected government? Fwiw, the AI companies have been saying a lot about these questions should be answered. Whether you want their answers is another story.

They have to act together. Universities should take part too. Let's get these national and international forums started.

Re: Humanity isn't ready for the coming intelligence explosion

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Honestly, this article has too many words which don't mean anything. 'AI Experts', 'superintelligence', and hand-waving doom scenarios. As an example- > Within a couple of years, possibly much sooner, AI may achieve so-called closed-loop recursive self-improvement (RSI): the capacity to rewrite its own code to become more capable, without human intervention. Should that happen, the result could be an intelligence exp…

> Ultimately, what counts is what we do with it.

Looking at the people in charge of these companies, and the sheer lack of understanding by the broad consumer market using them, I have nothing but pessimism about the direction that this technology takes us.

Re: Humanity isn't ready for the coming intelligence explosion

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Humanity doesn't fully leverage the intelligence it already has, so I think people are overestimating the disruption ahead.

That’s from a lack of intelligence not an abundance. An intelligent society would already be maximizing the productivity of its intelligent population.

Intelligence of individuals doesn't automatically translate to a society behaving intelligently

Re: Humanity isn't ready for the coming intelligence explosion

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I couldn't read the whole article, but just from the part I could read:

> Strikingly, this concern is being openly voiced by the very people who have the strongest incentives to project confidence rather than alarm: the founders of the largest ai laboratories.

I don't know, they also have an incentive to make their technology seem transformative and powerful, and saying that your technology has the power to cause a massive catastrophe is a way to promote that idea.

Re: Humanity isn't ready for the coming intelligence explosion

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> Experts in artificial intelligence estimate... The predictions of these "experts" have been drastically wrong for the last 3 years. At what point does someone lose their "expert" title?

Those are the experts who were wrong. These are the experts who are right. We sacked the experts who are wrong and replaced them with the experts who are right.

“How do we know they’re right?” I hear you ask. We know because we who are wrong and these ones aren’t them. So they can’t make wrong predictions because those who make wrong predictions have been sacked.

Re: Humanity isn't ready for the coming intelligence explosion

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> Experts in artificial intelligence estimate the risk of an AI-caused catastrophic event at 10-50%.

I don't think it's that high but can we put that aside and focus on the 100% chance that it's being used to enshittify every part of our lives?

Re: Humanity isn't ready for the coming intelligence explosion

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> Experts in artificial intelligence estimate... The predictions of these "experts" have been drastically wrong for the last 3 years. At what point does someone lose their "expert" title?

Those are the experts who were wrong. These are the experts who are right. We sacked the experts who are wrong and replaced them with the experts who are right. “How do we know they’re right?” I hear you ask. We know because we who are wrong and these ones aren’t them. So they can’t make wrong predictions because those who make wrong predictions have been sacked.

Namely? Who sacked who, who confirmed who?
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