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Post by kevin_thibedeau »

xp84 wrote: post #373
pseudosavant wrote: post #372

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Maybe it is just the devices I have, but I've had the higher end 4K-capable Roku boxes before I eventually got all Roku TVs. I would say the experience with my Roku TVs (TCL, Phillips, and Sharp) has been the best. Nothing slow about them. I don't try to do anything like run a console emulator on them though. Just watching streaming channels and YouTube TV.

I wish I could come back and ask you how they perform after a couple more years of "software updates" from the app providers. Considering, too, that they will also be vibe-coding them from here on out. IDK about the specs on yours, but even things like bloated sizes of apps themselves on disk can become a problem. What happens when the OS and the apps inevitably go up in size such that the 8GB or whatever TCL has dec…

I have a 10 year old 4k Roku TV that works a good as new. The Roku app API is severely limited. The upside of that is that it discourages webdev bloat.

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Post by asveikau »

TheGrassyKnoll wrote: post #377
asveikau wrote: post #214

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It depends. If they have the foresight to know that alienating their existing install base is a bad thing, then maybe they will put in a shoestring budget to keep the lights on for the old stuff.

Fox owning Roku is alienating to me.

Yeah I agree. I own one of their devices but wouldn't buy another after this news.

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Post by dylan604 »

Marsymars wrote: post #361
dylan604 wrote: post #34

Ugh, Fox. I recently made the decision to not spend $10.99/month for their FoxOne app to stream World Cup matches. I decided to watch the Telemundo broadcasts instead, even though I don’t speak Spanish, just to not give Fox my money. If I were Roku user, this would definitely cause me to quit being a Roku user. I doubt I’d be the only one, but I also do not believe it will be enough total to be noticeable.

FYI if you live in/near an urban area, you can probably get a ton of world cup matches with an antenna without directly giving Fox money.

That's how I'm watching the games they carry on the main channel, but some games they have decided ratings do not justify playing in primetime. I have to flip over to Telemundo for those. I assumed that me saying Telemnudo broadcasts implied I was watching OTA broadcast.

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Post by ssl-3 »

CrimsonCape wrote: post #247
prepend wrote: post #200

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I run Plex and am pretty happy. Will likely eventually switch to Jellyfin as Plex is getting lamer and lamer.

Jellyfin's worst aspect is the opinionated file structure. You have to set up folders the way it wants, and then the resulting UI browser is what-you-see-is-what-you-get. Pretty sure it's done this way for automated metadata discovery. Ideally, this would be designed in two parts: separate the file structure from the metadata discovery mechanism. I personally want a file structure managed by the OS. Let me make folde…

I'm OK with structuring file layouts however it wants. I'm even OK with giving Jellyfin a whole directory tree full of symlinks that are organized exactly how it desires, and then automating its ongoing maintenance.

The thing I'm not OK with about Jellyfin is that the common answer for remote access involves setting up a reverse proxy or a VPN or some other darned thing that I will never be able to talk my mom into configuring her Roku to be able to use.

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Post by telcal »

Fnoord wrote: post #222

A company with the business practices of Fox News I will not buy services or products from. Same with regards to Oracle. I actually regret buying a Nvidia Shield TV. Yes, software support might be there. But what isn't there is the interface (without advertising, the cancer of the world) it came with. Thanks to Google. Thanks to Google, my children are now forced to see inappropriate advertising when the TV gets powe…

Install Projectivy Launcher. No more ads and you can customize everything.

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Post by Rohansi »

pier25 wrote: post #367
Rohansi wrote: post #325

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> since I got it 10 years ago Probably one of the big issues here. It's probably still the best Android TV you can get today but that's really sad because the SoC in it came out in 2015 (with some improvements in 2019). It was probably worse than what was in Apple TV at the time and Apple refreshed it two times since then.

I doubt it. That SOC is still overkill for video (which I believe powered the Nintendo Switch 1). I think the big issue is really a combination of the Nvidia software and just terrible Android TV.

That's what I was getting at. New software tends to run poorly on old hardware.

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Post by gmueckl »

delecti wrote: post #363
gmueckl wrote: post #303

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Executive orders can effectively kneecap any efforts to put laws into effect, as we can see almost daily since 20. January 2025.

No, quite the opposite. Laws can kneecap efforts to make executive orders (in contradiction with those laws). That's why he's lost in court so many times about so many of his orders.

This is ... charitable. Enforcing laws relies on courts which are only reacting slowly to a non-cooperarive administration, which gleefully ignores orders or practices malicious compliance after the damage has been done (and done as fast as possible). Judiciary enforcement is barely existant.

The whole dance is really effective at keeping the administration one or two steps ahead of the judiciary and legislative branch.

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Post by throw0101c »

pseudosavant wrote: post #208
rhubarbtree wrote: post #191

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Can confirm Apple is best but Roku is amazingly good number 2. In some ways its UX beats Apple.

Especially because you can get TVs with Roku built-in. I would guess most Roku users aren't using a box these days.

> Especially because you can get TVs with Roku built-in.

Except in that case don't you have to give the TVs themselves Internet access? Do you trust any TV with such access nowadays given all the tomfoolery with surveillance that most OEMs do?

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Post by pwdisswordfishs »

matwood wrote: post #255
05 wrote: post #219

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If the box where I can’t set up a third party player to do the ‘replay last 5 seconds with subtitles on’ because it’s all locked down is the best then I don’t want to know what the worst is, I’ll just keep using LibreElec. At least if LibreElec does something I don’t like Claude can fix it.

The Apple TV (hardware) can do what you're asking using a voice command "What did he/she say". It's possible it no longer works in every app because services insist on writing their own players that don't work as well as the player provided by Apple TV.

> it no longer works in every app because services insist on writing their own players that don't work as well as the player provided by Apple TV

So much for those oft-touted benefits of Apple's policy on gatekeeping third-party apps so it allows them to enforce quality standards.

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Post by pseudosavant »

throwatdem12311 wrote: post #15

gross, is there any TV is that isn’t Google or Roku that is halfway decent? Bring back dumb TVs

It is pretty easy to make a Roku TV dumb.

1. Remove the few pre-installed apps except the HDMI inputs you want.

2. Then disconnect wifi.

As long as the device you turn on does HDMI-CEC (which almost everything other than a PC does) it will automatically switch to the input that your device is connected to. If it doesn't, you just have to click on the input you want to switch to.

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