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Re: Fox to buy Roku

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Post by bigfishrunning »

carlosjobim wrote: post #239
dylan604 wrote: post #34

Ugh, Fox. I recently made the decision to not spend $10.99/month for their FoxOne app to stream World Cup matches. I decided to watch the Telemundo broadcasts instead, even though I don’t speak Spanish, just to not give Fox my money. If I were Roku user, this would definitely cause me to quit being a Roku user. I doubt I’d be the only one, but I also do not believe it will be enough total to be noticeable.

Do you think people will throw away their perfectly functioning devices because of politics?

Nah, they'll just put a "i bought it before elon went crazy" sticker on their brand-new cybertruck.

People talk a big game, but really are unprincipled in general.

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Post by airstrike »

thinkingtoilet wrote: post #244
airstrike wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It literally does? Things that people care strongly about get prioritized. I said others don't feel like the OP. Maybe they agree with the point if presented with the choice, but again, they don't feel the same way, so they don't think, protest, comment, demand it in the way the OP does.

Not at all. I can feel very strongly about that, but if I feel more strongly about health care so tens of thousands of people don't die needlessly and countless millions more don't go bankrupt or get maimed from lack treatment, one is going to win over the other. That doesn't mean I don't feel strongly about it. Also, the 600,000 in Wyoming get the same two senators as the 40,000,000 people in California so it's not…

Like I said, not enough people care about it enough to push for legislation.

And proportional representation is found in the House of Representatives. We have a bicameral legislature.

Re: Fox to buy Roku

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Post by bigfishrunning »

voakbasda wrote: post #43

If this happens, our Roku TV is going in the trash. They locked out their customers of their own devices by pushing updated firmware that forced agreement to new terms. They lost my trust during that episode, and this move shows that was the right decision. Meanwhile, Fox lost my respect decades ago. The idea that they could gain network level access to one of my devices cannot be reconciled with my need to feel secu…

I use a sony projector as my tv -- it's a finicky expensive device, but the picture is good and there's no apps or network connection on it

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Post by mplanchard »

newaccountman2 wrote: post #64
mplanchard wrote: post #63

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Yes, it has netflix, hbo, hulu, crunchyroll, etc etc etc. Even Apple TV (the streaming service). The only thing I use but isn’t on there is criterion.

Shit, maybe I should just get a PlayStation :0

I resisted buying an apple tv for a long time, because I was going to have a playstation either way for games!

The (relatively) poor quality and difficulty of hooking my laptop up to the TV for criterion eventually pushed me to get one just for that, since there’s no word on if criterion has any plans to release an app for PS

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Post by matwood »

05 wrote: post #219
freeAgent wrote: post #186

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Ironically, I think the Apple TV is the best streaming box out there. Of course, Apple is both the manufacturer and a streamer in their own right. And they definitely privilege their own store and streaming over other services. However, everything else already sucks so much with UIs chock full of ads that Apple wins anyway. It’s awful.

If the box where I can’t set up a third party player to do the ‘replay last 5 seconds with subtitles on’ because it’s all locked down is the best then I don’t want to know what the worst is, I’ll just keep using LibreElec. At least if LibreElec does something I don’t like Claude can fix it.

The Apple TV (hardware) can do what you're asking using a voice command "What did he/she say". It's possible it no longer works in every app because services insist on writing their own players that don't work as well as the player provided by Apple TV.

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Post by CrimsonCape »

IshKebab wrote: post #10
pickleglitch wrote: post #7

So now the same corporation that owns Fox News is going to own Roku? No thanks. Guess it's finally time to switch to a custom Android TV box or Apple TV. Or roll my own, but I've tried that and found it pretty difficult.

> Or roll my own, but I've tried that and found it pretty difficult. I agree, there seem to be no good options for this. You can use Kodi or whatever, but I want something that supports playing my ... totally legally acquired content... and Netflix/Disney/iPlayer/etc. In a package that's silent and low power. Doesn't seem to exist unfortunately. I guess the closest is Nvidia Shield. You can apparently still sideload…

Yeah, this space seems pretty sparse. Some of the Radxa SBCs are getting closer to a hardware solution for your vision, but there isn't real mainstream software. A self-hosted DNLA server is probably the most realistic option but DNLA has seemed to fall by the wayside in favor of paid streaming and plex/jellyfin.

That said, Tailscale did not exist when DNLA was popular, and DNLA over Tailscale seems a really promising non-jellyfin avenue.

Ultimately the problem will be lack of hardware decoders and poor interop with Dolby, DTS, etc.

https://bret.dk/radxa-dragon-q8b-a-laptop-cosplaying-as-an-s...

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Post by givinguflac »

05 wrote: post #219
freeAgent wrote: post #186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ironically, I think the Apple TV is the best streaming box out there. Of course, Apple is both the manufacturer and a streamer in their own right. And they definitely privilege their own store and streaming over other services. However, everything else already sucks so much with UIs chock full of ads that Apple wins anyway. It’s awful.

If the box where I can’t set up a third party player to do the ‘replay last 5 seconds with subtitles on’ because it’s all locked down is the best then I don’t want to know what the worst is, I’ll just keep using LibreElec. At least if LibreElec does something I don’t like Claude can fix it.

|If the box where I can’t set up a third party player to do the ‘replay last 5 seconds with subtitles on’ because it’s all locked down

You do you, but I find that to be a truly niche thing to throw away an entire platform over. It literally does everything else better imho.

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Post by xp84 »

mindtricks wrote: post #248
freeAgent wrote: post #186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ironically, I think the Apple TV is the best streaming box out there. Of course, Apple is both the manufacturer and a streamer in their own right. And they definitely privilege their own store and streaming over other services. However, everything else already sucks so much with UIs chock full of ads that Apple wins anyway. It’s awful.

A few reasons I'm staying positive towards Apple, despite being a streamer themselves, is that they're not large at all. They've currently remained a small, niche content provider of reasonably high-quality content. They don't seem to have the aspirations to be bigger than those on their platform. Also, they have so much increasing oversight on their App Store and decisions there, that they likely do not want to do a…

Despite becoming quite critical of Apple in many other areas, I agree with your assessment here. And hopefully they realize if they started getting so anticompetitive in this space that they start elbowing "non-Apple" streamers out of the picture on their platform, the loss would be Apple's. A streaming box that doesn't have Netflix, or that is missing another major, would be far less compelling than what it is today.

Re: Fox to buy Roku

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Post by dylan604 »

carlosjobim wrote: post #239
dylan604 wrote: post #34

Ugh, Fox. I recently made the decision to not spend $10.99/month for their FoxOne app to stream World Cup matches. I decided to watch the Telemundo broadcasts instead, even though I don’t speak Spanish, just to not give Fox my money. If I were Roku user, this would definitely cause me to quit being a Roku user. I doubt I’d be the only one, but I also do not believe it will be enough total to be noticeable.

Do you think people will throw away their perfectly functioning devices because of politics?

No, that's why I said that if any one did, it would be so low of a number that nobody would notice.

Re: Fox to buy Roku

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Post by xp84 »

matwood wrote: post #255
05 wrote: post #219

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the box where I can’t set up a third party player to do the ‘replay last 5 seconds with subtitles on’ because it’s all locked down is the best then I don’t want to know what the worst is, I’ll just keep using LibreElec. At least if LibreElec does something I don’t like Claude can fix it.

The Apple TV (hardware) can do what you're asking using a voice command "What did he/she say". It's possible it no longer works in every app because services insist on writing their own players that don't work as well as the player provided by Apple TV.

When Subtitles are set to 'auto' i think it now automatically turns the subtitles on like that when you do the skip back command.

But yeah, the Siri way (much as I loathe using Siri) is the definite way.

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