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Re: Iroh 1.0

#41

Doesn't it seem odd to have "Pricing" for a protocol that's meant to serve a similar function to IP addresses? Maybe I'm misunderstanding something.

The equivalent for IP addresses to what they offer would be closer to running a BGP router or ISP, or generally contracting with network engineers for your data-center's networking.

If you want to run an ISP or AS, believe me it will cost you a decent chunk of money.

Re: Iroh 1.0

#42

This page is basically useless in explaining what Iroh is or does and why I should care.

This is true. But you could click the name in the top left. Or Docs.

IP addresses break, dial keys instead

Modular networking stack for direct, peer-to-peer connections between devices

iroh establishes direct connections whenever possible, falling back to relay servers if necessary. Get fast, efficient, reliable connections that are authenticated and encrypted end-to-end using QUIC.

Re: Iroh 1.0

#44

Doesn't it seem odd to have "Pricing" for a protocol that's meant to serve a similar function to IP addresses? Maybe I'm misunderstanding something.

tailscale syndrome.

"we want to be infrastructure for people, and a business towards professionals."

stuck between "we need cash to operate" and "we want to be a public good infrastructural system." , with the negative parts of a for-profit whisked away with "Well it's open source."

it's a business concept i'm okayish with as long as the "Well it's open source." caveat doesn't come with a total bespoke and unusable code base to figure out.

Re: Iroh 1.0

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I am one of the iroh developers. A question that frequently comes up: when will iroh support webrtc, or BLE, or LoRa, or ... Iroh as of now supports only IPv4, IPv6 and relay transports out of the box. There is such a large variety of potentially interesting transports out there that we can't support all of them without turning the codebase into an unmaintainable maze of feature flags. But we have added the ability t…

What are the risks if any of running public relays? Is this similar in concept to running Tor Guard Nodes / Relays?

All the data is e2e encrypted and nothing is stored. The usual self hosting public things rules apply.

Re: Iroh 1.0

#46
I don't understand the problem its trying to solve in the first place, IP works just fine, such as DNS.

There is already IPv6 and quic, you need vendor and major software to have any traction in that field.

Re: Iroh 1.0

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I am one of the iroh developers. A question that frequently comes up: when will iroh support webrtc, or BLE, or LoRa, or ... Iroh as of now supports only IPv4, IPv6 and relay transports out of the box. There is such a large variety of potentially interesting transports out there that we can't support all of them without turning the codebase into an unmaintainable maze of feature flags. But we have added the ability t…

What are the risks if any of running public relays? Is this similar in concept to running Tor Guard Nodes / Relays?

If you run a public unauthenticated relay you act as a home relay for whoever has your relay configured in their relay map and is close in terms of latency.

So you might get a lot of traffic. You can configure rate limiting, as we do on our public relays.

The traffic is fully encrypted and can not be decrypted by the relay. The only information the relay has is what is necessary for it to function - the endpoint id and ip addresses of the endpoints that are connected to it at any given time, as well as endpoint pairings.

You relay encrypted traffic with no egress to the open internet. So if you want to compare it with Tor, it would be like a tor guard/middle relay, not an exit node.

Re: Iroh 1.0

#48
I'm out of my technical depth here, but out of curiosity: is this meant to be a full replacement for the current IP address paradigm, or is this meant to be a specific tool on top of/alongside IP addresses that solves particular problems/frictions?

Re: Iroh 1.0

#49
post #46

I don't understand the problem its trying to solve in the first place, IP works just fine, such as DNS. There is already IPv6 and quic, you need vendor and major software to have any traction in that field.

Establishing direct connections on the other hand is a much harder problem with the current internet infrastructure.
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