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UK Brings in Full Social Media Ban for Under-16s

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Re: UK Brings in Full Social Media Ban for Under-16s

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Post by wallaBBB »

dizzy3gg wrote: post #34
christkv wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you not discovered piehole or child controls? My kids stuff is completely locked down it was not hard. I don't need the state to be involved.

Locked down to what though? Bike rides and tag? I TRY to limit my child to 30 mins a day, but when she’s older there is gonna be peers that I will battling against.

Also my 14yo self was far more skilled at circumventing online guardrails (mostly piracy back then) than my old ass is today. I’m not winning that battle of cat and mouse.

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Post by [deleted] »

ThalesX wrote: post #31
hatefulmoron wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not in favor of these social media bans, but I would think the benefit here is that without the ban your child will be in the "real world" while everybody else's is on social media. This would make the "real world" socialization benefits more difficult.

I want my child to go out, but first I need to force every other child to go out. Maybe that's why children are not out? Because parents wait for all the other children to go out?

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Re: UK Brings in Full Social Media Ban for Under-16s

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Post by Aardwolf »

budududuroiu wrote: post #14
aledevv wrote: post #7

> “Children will be given back their childhoods,” As a parent, I completely agree. We need to protect children from the dangers of the completely uncontrolled "jungle" of social media. But above all, we need to give children back the right to experience a true, real childhood, made up of true friends, fresh air, friendships, and real relationships!

> As a parent, I completely agree. What's stopping you from doing this so far? Handing a child a smartphone is a decision parents can make, withholding access to a smartphone is also a decision parents can make.

Maybe they can't make real friends if all the others are engulfed in social media

Re: UK Brings in Full Social Media Ban for Under-16s

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Post by j-bos »

stuaxo wrote: post #32
aledevv wrote: post #7

> “Children will be given back their childhoods,” As a parent, I completely agree. We need to protect children from the dangers of the completely uncontrolled "jungle" of social media. But above all, we need to give children back the right to experience a true, real childhood, made up of true friends, fresh air, friendships, and real relationships!

This could start if we became less worried about kids being kidnapped or whatever and actually let them out. Kids have less freedom than ever.

Sir this the UK you're talking about.

Re: UK Brings in Full Social Media Ban for Under-16s

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Post by 9dev »

oneeyedpigeon wrote: post #5
anotherhue wrote: post #2

Feels heavy handed, but the brain-rot seems to be quite real, so I don't see a better option.

One 'better option' would be to hold parents more responsible for crimes that their children commit. And to broaden the types of abuse that the state can respond to—if parents let their children habitually drink alcohol to excess or smoke tobacco underage, social services tend to get involved. Another 'better option' would be to prosecute tech companies that intentionally create addictive, harmful content. Banning so…

> hold parents more responsible for crimes that their children commit.

Oh yeah, punishing children for mistakes they need to make to learn not to make them and moving responsibility from parents to the government sounds like a great idea.

Re: UK Brings in Full Social Media Ban for Under-16s

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Post by maccard »

wallaBBB wrote: post #33
christkv wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you not discovered piehole or child controls? My kids stuff is completely locked down it was not hard. I don't need the state to be involved.

Those are far from easy do handle for majority of parents. Banks keeps sending me warnings about some new ‘Nigerian prince’ level scams. They wouldn’t be doing it if grownups weren’t falling for them. General population doesn’t want to setup piholes.

You don’t need a pihole. iOS and android both have parental controls that are very simple to use.

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Post by postexitus »

budududuroiu wrote: post #14
aledevv wrote: post #7

> “Children will be given back their childhoods,” As a parent, I completely agree. We need to protect children from the dangers of the completely uncontrolled "jungle" of social media. But above all, we need to give children back the right to experience a true, real childhood, made up of true friends, fresh air, friendships, and real relationships!

> As a parent, I completely agree. What's stopping you from doing this so far? Handing a child a smartphone is a decision parents can make, withholding access to a smartphone is also a decision parents can make.

Same argument goes for cigarette and alcohol. Withholding access to them is a decision a parent can make. Are you for allowing children to purchase them?

Re: UK Brings in Full Social Media Ban for Under-16s

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Post by adityamwagh »

budududuroiu wrote: post #14
aledevv wrote: post #7

> “Children will be given back their childhoods,” As a parent, I completely agree. We need to protect children from the dangers of the completely uncontrolled "jungle" of social media. But above all, we need to give children back the right to experience a true, real childhood, made up of true friends, fresh air, friendships, and real relationships!

> As a parent, I completely agree. What's stopping you from doing this so far? Handing a child a smartphone is a decision parents can make, withholding access to a smartphone is also a decision parents can make.

They will want a smartphone if their friends have it.

Re: UK Brings in Full Social Media Ban for Under-16s

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Post by pjc50 »

majorchord wrote: post #29
pjc50 wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A significant part of the brain rot involves full adults. Elon Musk is openly advocating riots in Northern Ireland; several people have been firebombed out of their houses. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/belfast-riot... Targeting kids is a distraction from making the difficult choice of confronting powerful adults.

> Musk wrote, “Only by protesting REPEATEDLY and LOUDLY will there be any change!!” I'm certainly not defending the man, but that comment to me is definitely not plainly seen as "advocating riots"... I'd call that a very disingenuous stretch of the truth. If we're going to criticize people, I think we need to do it for the right reasons.

> protesting REPEATEDLY and LOUDLY

For what outcome though, hmm?

The exact opposite logic gets applied against supporters of Palestine such as Sally Rooney, who was threatened with a total ban on her (unrelated) work until the High Court ruled in her favor.

Re: UK Brings in Full Social Media Ban for Under-16s

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Post by hatefulmoron »

ThalesX wrote: post #31
hatefulmoron wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not in favor of these social media bans, but I would think the benefit here is that without the ban your child will be in the "real world" while everybody else's is on social media. This would make the "real world" socialization benefits more difficult.

I want my child to go out, but first I need to force every other child to go out. Maybe that's why children are not out? Because parents wait for all the other children to go out?

I mean, we view social networks as having network effects that keep people there. The same force that stops people from switching from Facebook and TikTok prevents people from abandoning social media altogether. Waiting for all the adults to be responsible and forward thinking seems a little far fetched.
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