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Windows 11 users are tired of MS account requirements creeping into everything

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Re: Windows 11 users are tired of MS account requirements creeping into everything

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post #119

I enjoy windows 10 hugely now that it is out of support. It became way better when microsoft started tormenting the users of win11 instead of win10, and now that windows update doesn't bring new catastrophes and unexpected reboot, the OS is finally not interfering with usage anymore.

You are not worried about 0-days and other malware?

Not really. The odds are way higher that an update will hose your system and data.

Re: Windows 11 users are tired of MS account requirements creeping into everything

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post #134

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Because when I want to play a game, I want to play a game, not debug someone's hacky attempt to make it work on Linux. Implementing a strict "no fiddly shit on my game machine" policy was one of the best choices for my mental health that I've made: It's a dedicated machine for gaming, with nothing really sensitive on it aside from gaming related accounts, and its only purpose is to play games with the least amount of…

If your game is on Steam and does not use creepy “anticheat” software, you can probably just play it on Linux.

I have that one linux friend who is always recompiling shaders every game update. It's only 5 minutes, but's it's every game update which can be lot.

I'm waiting for that to go away before I consider the jump. I figure there'll be enough people sick of that behaviour it'll get sorted.

Re: Windows 11 users are tired of MS account requirements creeping into everything

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post #119

I enjoy windows 10 hugely now that it is out of support. It became way better when microsoft started tormenting the users of win11 instead of win10, and now that windows update doesn't bring new catastrophes and unexpected reboot, the OS is finally not interfering with usage anymore.

You are not worried about 0-days and other malware?

You mean Windows 11, or 10?

I joke

Re: Windows 11 users are tired of MS account requirements creeping into everything

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I was in a hurry trying to log into my kid's Minecraft account, wound up clicking something to associate it with the Windows account... now the PC is in restricted mode and I'm having a hard time restoring the previously associated Microsoft account (among other things, have to ask permission to open the browser and approve the requests logging in on my phone)! Everything online says to use the option to switch to a…

I ran into this trying to set up a new Dell laptop for my mom. It shipped to her in "S mode", meaning that among other things I couldn't install arbitrary software from the web. I assumed there'd be some straightforward way to disable it (even if it might be a little buried to discourage normies). But after several hours of searching through tutorials and mucking about in Windows settings, the command prompt, BIOS, a…

First DuckDuckGo result for "windows s mode": https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/switching-out-of...

Re: Windows 11 users are tired of MS account requirements creeping into everything

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I was in a hurry trying to log into my kid's Minecraft account, wound up clicking something to associate it with the Windows account... now the PC is in restricted mode and I'm having a hard time restoring the previously associated Microsoft account (among other things, have to ask permission to open the browser and approve the requests logging in on my phone)! Everything online says to use the option to switch to a…

> Everything online says to use the option to switch to a Windows account but I am pretty sure it is not available anymore.

Not everything. I say: use the option to switch to Linux.

I installed PopOS and Steam for my 11 y/o. She games either on her Nintendo Switch (not Microsoft) or on her iPad (not Microsoft) or on Linux (not Microsoft).

Wife works from a Debian desktop PC, so do I.

Microsoft is not allowed in this house.

Re: Windows 11 users are tired of MS account requirements creeping into everything

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post #47

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I'm not sure there's anything I dislike more than "the average user" because so much good software has been destroyed because of it.

The actual average user is fine. The problem is most companies seem design for some hypothetical average user, who they hate and/or think is a dumbass.

I've dealt with users for a few years. Those were already selected to be a bit more technical than your average person because of a niche I am in. I can tell you an average user is in fact a dumbass.. Vast majority doesn't understand concepts like files. People have all kind of crap on their computers as they randomly click around and download everything. They save information in the downloads folder and complain it disappears. Their computer is 10x slower than yours because all the crap that runs on it.

The are also very aggressive when it comes to not reading error message or in fact learning anything about how computers or their OS works. Add to this usual entitlements and not seeing a problem with being dumb on purpose and you get a picture of an average user.

The companies know that and the dumbed down design we get is a diret consequence of it.

Re: Windows 11 users are tired of MS account requirements creeping into everything

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post #17

Yet they use it, they do not really care, they even install Windows games that requires kernel level spyware read anti-cheat. There are Linux distros that are newbie friendly and looks like Windows. An end user that does not depend on Adobe, if you are still using that for whatever reason, they have no excuse to don't move to Linux distro OS.

good luck getting ol' grandma to flash her desktop with Fedora/equivalent

> good luck getting ol' grandma to flash her desktop with Fedora/equivalent

My kid's grandma (my wife's mom) brought me one Windows laptop too-many to fix "because there were ads everywhere".

I confiscated her laptop (I'm now using Linux on it) and had her buy a Chromebook.

People aren't using Windows under my watch / friends don't let friends/family use that mediocre piece of turd that Windows is / etc.

Re: Windows 11 users are tired of MS account requirements creeping into everything

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post #119

I enjoy windows 10 hugely now that it is out of support. It became way better when microsoft started tormenting the users of win11 instead of win10, and now that windows update doesn't bring new catastrophes and unexpected reboot, the OS is finally not interfering with usage anymore.

You are not worried about 0-days and other malware?

I use Windows 10 with a relatively obscure firewall software with a per-process/per-service whitelist, and try to not be stupid on the Internet. I also do regular backups. This should cover most of the risk model applicable to me. Has worked so far.

Re: Windows 11 users are tired of MS account requirements creeping into everything

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Ignorance isn't a good excuse. If you do backbreaking work in the worst shoes and complain about your foot hurting, you might want to start shoe shopping.

Shoe shopping and learning about new / different technology are not equivalent. Shoes have a near uniform interface that is easily learned by parents or trial and error. Loading an alternative OS is foreign to most people. People learn from others the best. Teaching others is the only means for them to realize there are better solutions than sticking with techo-fascist Microsoft. I'm say this as someone that grew up…

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Re: Windows 11 users are tired of MS account requirements creeping into everything

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To use an alternative, you need to know someone with the knowledge and ability and able to request their time. Fortunately, my old pal Claude Code is always there for me. Need something installed/fixed/changed? Just ask... in plain English. I don't need him for Windows, but man , that dude can make Linux walk and talk.

> Fortunately, my old pal Claude Code is always there for me Is this just a form of changing one subscription for another?

No, because pretty much any model and harness could be used as a robotic Linux admin instead of Claude Code. I haven't tried Codex or Gemini for that, but I'm sure they'd be fine. Ultimately that particular Linux box is going to be used to host local models, which should also work.

An account with an AI provider gets me the ability to submit prompts and run agents with their model. I pay them, I get a useful service in return, and I can stop or switch providers anytime. Conversely, I get absolutely nothing in return for logging into my own machine with a Microsoft account. It benefits Microsoft -- somehow, I guess, who knows? -- but not me.

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