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Windows 11 users are tired of MS account requirements creeping into everything

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Re: Windows 11 users are tired of MS account requirements creeping into everything

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I have used a Windows OS almost every day of my life since 1999 or so. Last December I had a choice and switched to MacOS for work laptop. Since then I seldom use Windows and I don't really regret. I still use an Xbox almost every day so there's that. In the last couple of weeks there's been some good news coming through for Xbox so we'll see.

Did you create an apple id?

At least macos doesn't require it to install software.

ios is a different story.

Re: Windows 11 users are tired of MS account requirements creeping into everything

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^^^^^ https://xkcd.com/2501/ Just like how Linus from LTT (just trust me bro on the source) said one day he needed a tool (hammer?) so he walked into the hardware store, found what looked like a hammer, and bought it. End of journey. And then he finally realized how a regular person buys tech. Most people do not care, do not know they should care, and do not care enough to know if they should care enough.

Yeah but they could have gotten a Makita XWT15Z 18V LXT Lithium Ion Brushless Cordless Impact Hammer instead? (This is like my niece buying a $5000 Alienware to play Roblox because she thinks she “needs a gaming PC”)

palm hammers are kind of cool, but they require air.

Sort of like how most water cooling requires RGB. ;)

Re: Windows 11 users are tired of MS account requirements creeping into everything

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Fedora is quite capable of doing absolutely nothing but opening Chrome and going to Facebook.

can you lock fedora down such that a few bad clicks dont disable the desktop manager and boots it into the terminal? this is the real problem with Linux on the desktop for non-power users

Guessing this is just a hypothetical, but if you really can do that (disable the DM via the GUI by accident), I'd be curious. If you told me to do that on purpose, my first instinct would be to uninstall the package.

Re: Windows 11 users are tired of MS account requirements creeping into everything

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I was in a hurry trying to log into my kid's Minecraft account, wound up clicking something to associate it with the Windows account... now the PC is in restricted mode and I'm having a hard time restoring the previously associated Microsoft account (among other things, have to ask permission to open the browser and approve the requests logging in on my phone)! Everything online says to use the option to switch to a…

I ran into this trying to set up a new Dell laptop for my mom. It shipped to her in "S mode", meaning that among other things I couldn't install arbitrary software from the web. I assumed there'd be some straightforward way to disable it (even if it might be a little buried to discourage normies). But after several hours of searching through tutorials and mucking about in Windows settings, the command prompt, BIOS, a…

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Re: Windows 11 users are tired of MS account requirements creeping into everything

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Good luck. I lost access to 3 of my 5 Minecraft licenses due to Microsoft login, and I’ll never forgive Microsoft for it.

Same here. That's when I switched my kids' machines to Linux. That was just 2 months back. And was Windows 11 bug free, no. Was it easier to use, no. Absolutely irritating OS.

I switched my kids to Linux too. They have a multi-seat setup so now they can both use the PC at the same time. With the state of Linux gaming, we have yet to encounter a reason to boot back into Windows.

Re: Windows 11 users are tired of MS account requirements creeping into everything

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There's a similar thing with Google accounts and Android, amirite? I've avoided having a Google account but it hasn't always been easy.

you can use an iphone without an apple id.

- you have to dodge dark patterns to get through setup without one

- you can't install software

Re: Windows 11 users are tired of MS account requirements creeping into everything

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they also force you to give a recovery account. i’m thinking microsoft’s hands are tied in this matter, it might be the government forcing a kyc strategy

Apple doesn't force you to create an AppleID unless you want to use Music and the App Store. You can still run macOS as a standalone local user. So, it's not government-forced KYC.

I believe on my Mac (non-primary machine, FWIW) I ended up signing into an Apple account, and I doubt I did that for no reason. I don't rely on iCloud or spend money on apps. Is it required to get Xcode, which is required for some things from homebrew to work? You did mention the App Store, which maybe applies here. Is the App Store the only way to get Xcode?

Re: Windows 11 users are tired of MS account requirements creeping into everything

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Fedora is quite capable of doing absolutely nothing but opening Chrome and going to Facebook.

can you lock fedora down such that a few bad clicks dont disable the desktop manager and boots it into the terminal? this is the real problem with Linux on the desktop for non-power users

Which few bad clicks would put a fedora install in that state?

Re: Windows 11 users are tired of MS account requirements creeping into everything

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If only Windows users fully understood why M/S wants you to create an account, people would leave en-masse. The ID along with their telemetry, M/S can map you to what you do and from where. That pretty much makes their builtin disk encryption useless.

They also upload what you do

Re: Windows 11 users are tired of MS account requirements creeping into everything

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There's a similar thing with Google accounts and Android, amirite? I've avoided having a Google account but it hasn't always been easy.

I've mostly just used LineageOS for several years now, but I believe the first time setup pushes you to sign in to a Google account, but you can easily skip it. If you do sign in, it's sticky/permanent and I think may require a reinstall to get back out of it.
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