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We all know why, and the reason doesn't fit what you want to believe. That's why you pretend to be obscure about it. Otherwise, you would have just said so out loud already.
It's because the US government doesn't fund hamas and US companies don't work with Hamas.
Stanford grads walk out on Google CEO Sundar Pichai speech
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#42Tech leaders from this era will not be remembered well.
At least in the 1990s and 2000s it felt they were doing some good stuff for humanity. But the 2010s and 2020s the masked pretty much slipped.
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#43Tech leaders from this era will not be remembered well.
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It's because the US government doesn't fund hamas and US companies don't work with Hamas.
The protest isn't about Hamas/Palestine. It's about criticizing what Israel is doing.
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Stanford students are criticizing Google for enabling Israel. If Google was providing support for Hamas they could protest that too.
I've never seen any protest by students that protested against Palestine. In fact, at University of Washington, a protest was organized to support Palestine after the Oct 7 massacre on Oct 8; they chose to show support Palestine after Palestine did a massacre. And there was a very little criticism on that kind of actions.
sure it was reprehensible, but is it on the same scale even? both before and after?
criticising hamas seems like premature optimization, and picking something basically irrelevant to the overall conflict
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#47Seems this has more to do with Palestine and Google's involvement with Israel to provide cloud computing.
It is a similar situation with Hezbollah in Lebanon.
You can argue that the government of Israel isn't the will of the people of Israel (in the same way the US government isn't the will of the people of the US), but in my opinion there's more of a separation between 'Palestine' and 'Hamas' than there is between 'Israel' and 'the will of the people of Israel'.
There's a lot of wrongdoing, which means there are a lot of innocents being harmed, and the harming of innocents is the greatest wrongdoing. Harm by inaction is also wrong. Harm by preventing aid and assistance is also wrong.
None of this stuff is easily answered.
The joys of ideology, or maybe more correctly, the joys of living amongst those who take ideology so seriously that they attempt to enforce their fantasies upon the real world.
In my personal logic bubble: Protesting in support of Palestine is not protesting in support of Hamas. Declaring support for Israel is protesting against Hamas and their acts of terrorism against Israel. I can do both of these things without being hypocritical (like I said, in my personal logic bubble).
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#49Tech leaders from this era will not be remembered well.
Re: Stanford grads walk out on Google CEO Sundar Pichai speech
#50Seems this has more to do with Palestine and Google's involvement with Israel to provide cloud computing.
In this seemingly forever argument, it seems there is some nuance in that Palestine is not Hamas and vice versa. One of the perspectives as I understand it is that Hamas is actually a threat to the existence of Palestine; the militaristic behaviour undermines Palestinian efforts at independence (and this is an avenue for exploitation by those who don't want to see an independent Palestine). It is a similar situation…