Total capitulation by America, Israel might not even be on-board with this deal, and Trump still has 5 days to chicken out or forget.
He did say unconditional surrender
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No, it's not a waste.
That would imply that the end result will be 0.
Nooo, it will be much worse. The end result will be a huge net negative. This administration will bring down the US a lot.
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#23Well Obama gave $3 billion dollars in cash to Iran. Atleast he didn't do that, right? RIGHT???
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#24It's the last bump before I liquidate all my stocks. I predict that the crash will come at the end or the beginning of the next president which is likely democrat.
Not that it's democrat's fault but democrat is more disciplined
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#25Are the terms of the deal public yet? If they're essentially a return to the status quo ante bellum, that would be a pretty embarrassing conclusion for the US (and would presumably further harden any belief within Iran that the only permanent regime-preserving solution involves accelerating the process of obtaining nuclear weapons).
It's much worse than that. This gives Iran de jure control of traffic in the strait.
“Art of the deal.” Thousands of deaths and tens to hundreds of billions of dollars borrowed and spent to be in a worse position than before this started.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_2026_Iran_wa...
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#26With nuclear questions to be resolved at a later time. Wasn't total disarmament the core, non-negoitable for this entire conflict?
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#27Are the terms of the deal public yet? If they're essentially a return to the status quo ante bellum, that would be a pretty embarrassing conclusion for the US (and would presumably further harden any belief within Iran that the only permanent regime-preserving solution involves accelerating the process of obtaining nuclear weapons).
The conclusion has long been embarassing unless we live under a rock.
The US president has been played like a fool by the Israelis and Iran has inflicted a humiliating defeat to the US and its allies by leveraging cheap asymmetric warfare.
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#28Are the terms of the deal public yet? If they're essentially a return to the status quo ante bellum, that would be a pretty embarrassing conclusion for the US (and would presumably further harden any belief within Iran that the only permanent regime-preserving solution involves accelerating the process of obtaining nuclear weapons).
From Al Jazeera:
>According to remarks carried by the Tasnim news agency, Iranian Deputy Foreign Minister Kazem Gharibabadi said negotiations for a final deal will be held during a 60-day period, after verifying that the US implemented its commitments under the deal, including ending hostilities, lifting the blockade, and releasing frozen assets.
So, it's an even worse position for the US than before launching the war.
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#30Are the terms of the deal public yet? If they're essentially a return to the status quo ante bellum, that would be a pretty embarrassing conclusion for the US (and would presumably further harden any belief within Iran that the only permanent regime-preserving solution involves accelerating the process of obtaining nuclear weapons).
There is no way Iran didn't gain on this, US would be lucky to hit status quo. The clown in chief is a moron and they know it and will exploit it.