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How to earn a billion dollars

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Re: How to earn a billion dollars

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Someone told me it was impossible to become an avogadrillionaire (to have a net worth of one mole, or approximately 6.02 x 10^23 dollars.) Now there's this founder I know whose startup grew 93% last month. Let's be conservative and say she has 2 million dollars. Let's calculate how many months of 93% growth it takes for something to grow 301,100,000,000,000,000x. The log base 1.93 of 301,100,000,000,000,000 is 61.209…

Yes, yes it is impossible. And I'm sure ChatGPT could easily tell you why.

Re: How to earn a billion dollars

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Words of wisdom. PG is always worth Reading. The haters do not seem to be actually reading and comprehending PG's article. I have news for you. The article is not written for those of you who are comprehension challenged...

Alternative view: People ARE understanding him, and disagreeing. Even Paul can have a minority view, and even Paul can be mistaken. Even people whoare always worth reading are sometimes wrong, and sometimes seeing how really smart people get things wrong is just as informative as when they get it right.

Becoming and being a billionaire is solely a mathematical exercise.

Re: How to earn a billion dollars

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The post is patronizing as hell, it’s no wonder people respond to it negatively. Patting people on the head and saying “you moron, it’s just two numbers” isn’t a good way to make an argument.

Sam Harris often makes an argument that I both hate and kind of agree with. He says that exchanging arguments and having a debate only works when the two arguing parties share a foundation. The debate’s purpose is to reconcile a measurable difference of opinion. In this case, I feel there’s no shared foundation. Half of the commenters here don’t seem to understand what money is or how it works. There's no soil in whi…

Perhaps, but I see zero desire from pg to understand the counterparty either. When engaging at such a superficial level, don’t be surprised when that’s what comes back.

Re: How to earn a billion dollars

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Having a billion dollars means the rules no longer apply to you. That is incompatible with functioning capitalism—incentives are no longer aligned with the rest of humanity—or personal freedom—rules for thee but not for me.

Money is a made up idea that we use to benefit everyone. It's a game that, largely, has positive returns for society. When that is no longer the case, when someone breaks the game and removes themselves from the rules, you have to change the rules.

Re: How to earn a billion dollars

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Paul, we know you're not stupid so please engage with the real argument, not a strawman.

The middle class is shrinking. Social mobility is decreasing. There's now a man who is worth a trillion dollars. Something is broken. Say something about that please.

Re: How to earn a billion dollars

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At scale the only utility of wealth is the power it gives to allocate the means of production. The vast majority of ultra high net worth individuals spend a tiny fraction of their wealth on personal consumptive activities, the only true "cost" born by society. But in exchange for this small cost aside from the benefits accrued to society existing in a natural state of free trade and commerce, society also gets to hav…

"most qualified to do so" Yes, us poors should be reminded that our bettors will create the means blah blah blah. You know who funded Arpanet? How the transistor was developed? On and on, taxpayers funded it. And now we have leeches acting like teenagers who think they invented sex.

Public investment is wonderful, even if the return on capital is lower than private allocations. Unfortunately, public investment is about 4% of GDP while total government expenditure (across all levels) is around 40% of GDP. Sadly this means a marginal dollar allocated to taxes under current spending is hardly going towards the next Arpanet or transistor. Compare this to when Arpanet was invented in 1969 public investment was about 10% of GDP on government spending 28% of GDP. So we've gone from a society using over a third of government spending to invest in the future, to less than a tenth.

Re: How to earn a billion dollars

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At scale the only utility of wealth is the power it gives to allocate the means of production. The vast majority of ultra high net worth individuals spend a tiny fraction of their wealth on personal consumptive activities, the only true "cost" born by society. But in exchange for this small cost aside from the benefits accrued to society existing in a natural state of free trade and commerce, society also gets to hav…

Those that created the means of production? You mean the people who build industrial robots and roads and trucks?

Re: How to earn a billion dollars

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We can't romanticize making money, it's a ruthless field where mostly politicians, the military complex, and drug traffickers thrive, and a few startups that cater to the global economy, which are very very rare, so rare than only 30 out of more than 6000 have succeded in Paul's own words. Amazon was first, then Uber went world wide, so did Airbnb, and now OpenClaw, so yes, the AI gold rush opened the gates for new o…

Musk minted 4000 millionaires last Friday. In the 1990s, the Seattle Times reported that over 10,000 Microsoft employees in the Seattle area were worth over a million dollars, excluding the value of their homes.

I know a minor NVIDIA employee who is worth well over 8 figures. Amazon zillionaires abound around here.

Re: How to earn a billion dollars

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The amount of negativity to this is depressing. No one seems to be contradicting anything he's saying here, instead it's just vacuous ideology "extraction" etc etc. Purposely narrow reading. I've got kids, I want people creating start ups they can work in, the alternative is too grim.

What if -- bear with me here -- it's possible for bright, motivated founders to create startups that your kids can work in, but those founders could be content with merely making a hundred million dollars? Because, and I don't know if you know this so you may have to take it on faith, that is still so much money that said founder and their family and very likely their descendants can live in extreme luxury for the re…

I think the most chronic misunderstanding in the "billionaire" rhetoric is that billionaires are in it for money.

People who work a job they don't like because they need money to live, view money as the objective in life, because the equivocate it to escaping and freedom. So wearing that lens, and looking at billionaires, these motherfuckers are greed driven psychopaths who blew past the "escape with freedom" bank account ages ago, and are now just taking money off the table from others trying to get ahead.

But that is not how it is at all. Virtually every billionaire is crazy focused on their work, and the money is a side effect that they don't really care that much about, besides it being a tool to enable more work they can do.

It's very hard to get this across when speaking to people who view work as an obstacle, money as god, don't have personal business experience, and whose passions are things that aren't very productive.

Re: How to earn a billion dollars

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> She was getting richer at a stupendously rapid rate. And yet she hadn't been doing anything bad. The reason her startup was growing so fast was simply that users loved what she'd built. So she could feel from her own experience how wrong that politician was. She wasn't exploiting anyone. I presume it's a company that just has co-founders then? Or everyone is getting an equal % of the share? In which case SHE's not…

Let’s not be silly. If there are 10 people each with 10% and the company grows by 93%, then everybody’s shares, including the founder’s, grows by 93%.

I mean they have a point if you account for issuing new shares.
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