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Not everyone is using AI for everything

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Re: Not everyone is using AI for everything

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On the post-grad job hunt right now - I note that most employers will ask in a technical interview or whiteboard interview "how are you using LLMs?" It's tough to answer because you want to hedge for both an AI enthused employer and an AI hesitant employer with limited information about who they are and how they personally use these products. I've been responding with a sort of long winded answer about how 'there is…

> It's tough to answer because you want to hedge for both an AI enthused employer and an AI hesitant employer with limited information about who they are and how they personally use these products. Have you considered just answering truthfully? Would you even want to work somewhere where you need to play a role and where they flip out when you say the wrong word you should've correctly guessed through mind reading? T…

I don't think having trouble knowing how to tailor your message to your audience because of limited information implies it isn't truthful. Answers to jobb interview questions are usually very manicured and rehearsed but I don't think they're generally lies.

Re: Not everyone is using AI for everything

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On the post-grad job hunt right now - I note that most employers will ask in a technical interview or whiteboard interview "how are you using LLMs?" It's tough to answer because you want to hedge for both an AI enthused employer and an AI hesitant employer with limited information about who they are and how they personally use these products. I've been responding with a sort of long winded answer about how 'there is…

> It's tough to answer because you want to hedge for both an AI enthused employer and an AI hesitant employer with limited information about who they are and how they personally use these products. Have you considered just answering truthfully? Would you even want to work somewhere where you need to play a role and where they flip out when you say the wrong word you should've correctly guessed through mind reading? T…

Because almost every HR department now has a directive to only let people through the screening process who say they are using "fully agentic workflows" even though that's moronic.

Re: Not everyone is using AI for everything

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On the post-grad job hunt right now - I note that most employers will ask in a technical interview or whiteboard interview "how are you using LLMs?" It's tough to answer because you want to hedge for both an AI enthused employer and an AI hesitant employer with limited information about who they are and how they personally use these products. I've been responding with a sort of long winded answer about how 'there is…

> It's tough to answer because you want to hedge for both an AI enthused employer and an AI hesitant employer with limited information about who they are and how they personally use these products.

I'm an old hat on both sides of this type of discussion from a post-grad view.

Recommendation: use it to own the conversation and to signal mutual fit. Yes, your idea of AI lover versus hesitant matters. I recommend reframing the question to pivot to your fit to the org (and org fit to you) question. Show/concisely explain how you consider whether LLMs are fit to a task and how to tell it improves outcomes.

An outcome focus and willingness to show thought process around a common use case will be a substantially strong response.

Re: Not everyone is using AI for everything

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I disagree. Everyone will be using AI for everything, but, increasingly, people won't think about whether they are using "AI" – just like they don't think about using databases.

Nor should they! It's such a shit thing to be emotionally invested in. Imagine people would have been upset about databases. It's really fantastic software and we should be happy to have it, and now go and make the most of it, for all of us.

Re: Not everyone is using AI for everything

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Would being truthful improve my chances of being hired?

If whoever is hiring is actually good at their job: yes. That is of course assuming that they're looking for some long-term stable team member. A skilled interviewer smells dishonesty. However, and to be fair, whether and how they act on it depends on the specific situation.

The skilled interviewer is rare. But if truly skilled they understand why people hedge and would not consider that dishonesty but a skillset the company might need. A semi-skilled interview might pick up on that and assume the worst.

Very few jobs are looking for opinioned most are looking at people who might fit in unless you are hiring to distory from without.

Re: Not everyone is using AI for everything

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In my non-tech circle, most people don't even realize how the internet is running literally everything. Even if we start to use mass scale AI for something, they wouldn't realize or care much about it. They at best turn on the TV to watch netflix or look at the phone to send messages on whatsapp. If all of that went away tomorrow, they'd be inconvenienced at best and then go on with their day to day life. This feels…

"They at best turn on the TV to watch netflix or look at the phone to send messages on whatsapp. If all of that went away tomorrow, they'd be inconvenienced at best and then go on with their day to day life." I'm not saying it is a good thing, but this is completely out of touch with how dependent (most) people are on these technologies.

I'd say its just businesses and governments that are dependant, most people can get by just fine

Re: Not everyone is using AI for everything

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I fear AI is going to be used for everything not because it's the best solution, but because people are inherently lazy and just want to get their thing done, and they don't care so much about the quality. "low effort and convenient" seems to consistently win over "best quality" and this is going to be a downgrade in everything, for everyone

I assume for a lot of people, an llm is going to produce higher quality results for most knowledge tasks than they could do on their own. I think that's okay

Re: Not everyone is using AI for everything

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I've noticed several companies replacing deterministic systems in their support flows with a LLM version that is slower and worse. Many interfaces simply aren't better with AI added

> replacing deterministic systems in their support flows The issue is, they don't want to provide "better" support but "cheaper" support. Imagine a trained agent that understands the big picture. Now imagine a company investing in humans to use AI to retrieve knowledge that the human can easily identify as being relevant or not, and using that knowledge to better aid the customer. Right now AI is being sold as a "we…

> Most people don't want to pay for better.

A lot of people want to pay for better, but that is hard. Better is more expensive, most of the time, but being more expensive is no guarantee for being better. It feels like the correlation is very weak. Most expensive products are just expensive, not good.

If there was a reliable way to identify the "better" thing, I and a lot of other people would go for that every time we can.

Re: Not everyone is using AI for everything

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Or just write it yourself?

Because typing “code” takes time and significant amounts of it. We are slowly waking up to the fact, which was always true, that “coding” is just a fanciful preparatory task in order to appease the spirits properly so that we may invoke the spirit of what we are actually after: a live, running process that does useful things. Code is completely useless when separated from that fact. Typing it is a complete waste of t…

> Typing it is a complete waste of time unless getting up close and personal with it will result in some kind of useful and actionable improvement in you or your understanding.

I would argue that this is nearly always the case. I don't think people really understand programs that they've only read at more than a very superficial level. This is why I tend to make (temporary) small changes, printlns, etc. when exploring a new code base: it aids greatly in understanding how a program actually works.

And it's even worse (in my experience) with LLM generated code, as it tends not to result in particularly understandable code. It is a lot like LLM generated prose: it often looks entirely reasonable at a surface level, but has a of weirdness/incorrectness hidden beneath the surface. But that surface level makes it very hard to avoid glossing over the details when reviewing the code. For this reason, I personally find it's much more effort to carefully review code than it is to write it.

Humans make mistakes all the time, but their code tends to naturally be structured for human understanding (to some degree based on skill/experience) because they themselves needed to understand it to write it.

I think LLMs are very useful tools, but after quite a lot of experience using them, I think it's generally better to use them as a sounding board, or to help you get unstuck or remove points of friction. Using them to write all of your code (at least for me) seems like a net negative.

I also think it's extremely easy to overestimate how much time they save. It feels like they're a productivity boost because it takes less intense focus to implement something. But I've experienced several instances where actually writing the code myself would have been both quicker and have resulted in better code.

All that being said, it can also be really hard to not write all of your code with agents once you get used to it. There's also a kind of slot-machine-like effect where you write a prompt, excited for the result, and when it doesn't quite come out right, you think "ah just one more prompt and it'll be good." It's hard to see when you're actually doing it though.

It's also weird to me how much people think typing is what the LLM is replacing. Typing was never the hard part. It's the translation of the high-level idea into an unambiguous process that's hard. That's also the valuable part, that requires thinking through the edge cases and consequences of decisions, and that just gets glossed over when using an LLM unless you rigorously review what the LLM has done.

At the end of the day there's a real tradeoff to be made, and it's worth being conscious of what's being given up.

Re: Not everyone is using AI for everything

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This a very condescending and privileged comment. The job market is much different when you're just starting out, and it's especially brutal these days for new grads.

It is not. I made that choice in the past and will do it again. "Speak the truth, even if your voice shakes"

I think it depends. The people that I know that have made significant sacrifices to live along their morals are usually people who 1) are intensely bitter when others will not sacrifice as much as them; 2) are completely understanding of people who will not sacrifice as much as them or acknowledge that they simply have less to sacrifice than others. For example someone who is willing to live the "dirtbag" lifestyle out of their car to dedicate to their outdoorsman activity who is either bitter others have the relative financial security or feel immensely grateful they have consistently good enough health that allows them to be outdoors with so little resources.

For example I think the decision to stick to certain morals is very hard if someone has a disabled dependent, are disabled themselves, or require consistent access to healthcare. There are different lines for different people of course. Our ire shouldn't go towards individuals who make these decisions but the people in power who force others to be in a position where these decisions need to be made.

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