Odd title, I’m not sure it was Anthropic’s decision. Practically this means Europe has a short window in which to catch up, while the US hobbles its own progress.
EU Commission looking at practical consequences of Anthropic decision
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#12Odd title, I’m not sure it was Anthropic’s decision. Practically this means Europe has a short window in which to catch up, while the US hobbles its own progress.
The most egregious example: the core OpenAI team is like forty per cent Polish...?
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#13The Fable debacle seems destined to be the canonical reason why the EU built their own software / AI ecosystem.
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#14Does "Europe" need a leading-edge model? Yeah, most likely, but chasing the "SpaceX-buys-all-the-Nvida-chips-then-rents-them-out" model is pointless, and the "China distills it all" market seems to be rather saturated as well. So, another vote for "meh", I guess?
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#15It remains to be seen what the actual consequences of the "Anthropic decision" are. Will it be struck down by the courts? Does it matter anyway? (And, from my POV, the answer to that is "No" -- Opus 4.whatever did several fine jobs for me this weekend, and I've yet to be convinced of Fable/Mythos/Whatever superiority). Does "Europe" need a leading-edge model? Yeah, most likely, but chasing the "SpaceX-buys-all-the-Nv…
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#16Odd title, I’m not sure it was Anthropic’s decision. Practically this means Europe has a short window in which to catch up, while the US hobbles its own progress.
How are we going to catch up if our most talented AI people have moved to Silicon Valley and get 10x the compensation they would get back home. The most egregious example: the core OpenAI team is like forty per cent Polish...?
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#17I think due to a variety of reasons EU and US are on a road to divorce. EU will be wise to make that happen on their terms, but they do not seem to be ready. - Monopolies and related regulation. Of course US has its own companies being treated as monopolies so they will try to save them - Social systems including healthcare - Russia being next door vs far away (for US) - The whole AI buildout - A little bit of Libre…
>EU will be wise to make that happen on their terms, but they do not seem to be ready. It's too late for this. The time to execute this was 20 years ago when EU had leverage (the EU stock market was bigger than the US one in 2004, now it's half). Now that leverage is gone and EU is bogged down with massive domestic issues it can't recover from (some of which you mentioned), and starting a massive tech IP/trade war no…
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#18I don't envy the interns whose job is to explain things to the EU leadership.
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
How are we going to catch up if our most talented AI people have moved to Silicon Valley and get 10x the compensation they would get back home. The most egregious example: the core OpenAI team is like forty per cent Polish...?
The US banning those people from working on frontier models is perhaps the exact thing that would give you an opportunity, you would think.
Jared Kushner will get a sweet package of private Anthropic shares and everything will be forgotten.
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#20If American services can be yeeted on a whim, American services can no longer be relied upon. The Fable debacle seems destined to be the canonical reason why the EU built their own software / AI ecosystem.
I would still prefer bureacratic laws to the chaos of the White House.