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UK set to announce social media ban for under-16s

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Re: UK set to announce social media ban for under-16s

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Post by nly »

stavros wrote: post #48
atollk wrote: post #29

I know many people dislike this movement but really, I think it's a good idea. Yes, it removes the "free" internet as it was 20 years ago, but that's gone already anyway. Yes, it opens up the way to a police state without anonymous internet access, but arguing against any law to be against that just seems like straight up anarchism to me. I see both children and adults being manipulated by corporations with "algorith…

A better measure would be to mandate that social media platforms can only show you content from people you follow, and in chronological order.

That basically kills the business model and would wipe hundreds of billions of $ in capital away

Not that I disagree

Re: UK set to announce social media ban for under-16s

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Post by Aurornis »

atollk wrote: post #29

I know many people dislike this movement but really, I think it's a good idea. Yes, it removes the "free" internet as it was 20 years ago, but that's gone already anyway. Yes, it opens up the way to a police state without anonymous internet access, but arguing against any law to be against that just seems like straight up anarchism to me. I see both children and adults being manipulated by corporations with "algorith…

> but really, I think it's a good idea.

> Yes, it removes the "free" internet

> Yes, it opens up the way to a police state without anonymous internet access

Is anyone else as stunned as I am by how many posters on tech websites have suddenly gone full anti-free-internet and embracing the police state?

The internet I grew up on was all about freedom and resisting the police state. Now the top voted comment (at least at time of me responding) is an open-arms welcoming of the internet police state and voicing support for removal of the free internet?

How did people become so naive to believe that this will benefit them? That the regulations are only going to impact kids who use the “bad sites” and not start reaching for your group chat rooms and your social news sites, too?

Do people not realize that they're going after Reddit, YouTube, and other sites, too? It's right there in the article. Think about how this has to be enforced: The only way to guarantee under-16s are banned from these sites is to force everyone to produce ID. You think it's a good idea to force us all to produce ID to watch YouTube videos or read a post on Reddit? This is what you want?

Re: UK set to announce social media ban for under-16s

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Post by nailer »

atollk wrote: post #29

I know many people dislike this movement but really, I think it's a good idea. Yes, it removes the "free" internet as it was 20 years ago, but that's gone already anyway. Yes, it opens up the way to a police state without anonymous internet access, but arguing against any law to be against that just seems like straight up anarchism to me. I see both children and adults being manipulated by corporations with "algorith…

> it removes the "free" internet as it was 20 years ago

I’m not sure free internet was ever good for us. I didn’t need to see all those beheading videos.

Re: UK set to announce social media ban for under-16s

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Post by stavros »

nly wrote: post #71
stavros wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A better measure would be to mandate that social media platforms can only show you content from people you follow, and in chronological order.

That basically kills the business model and would wipe hundreds of billions of $ in capital away Not that I disagree

Good!

Re: UK set to announce social media ban for under-16s

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Post by folkrav »

philipallstar wrote: post #27
Fervicus wrote: post #19

Arguing about whether this is good or effective for kids or not is irrelevant. This isn't about kids at all. It's about surveillance.

This is obviously about kids. The problem is it requires surveillance. You don't get to decide what it's not about.

Almost anything can be made "about the kids" with the right framing.

Re: UK set to announce social media ban for under-16s

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Post by BigJono »

atollk wrote: post #29

I know many people dislike this movement but really, I think it's a good idea. Yes, it removes the "free" internet as it was 20 years ago, but that's gone already anyway. Yes, it opens up the way to a police state without anonymous internet access, but arguing against any law to be against that just seems like straight up anarchism to me. I see both children and adults being manipulated by corporations with "algorith…

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Re: UK set to announce social media ban for under-16s

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Post by nailer »

paytonjjones wrote: post #67
raincole wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> as drugs Because war on drugs has been such a successful policy...?

I'm not saying the war on drugs has been successful by any means. But legalization has also been a really disappointing flop. After marijuana was legalized in my state, it has been really disturbing to see usage skyrocket among middle and high schoolers. A lot of people apparently derive their standards of morality from the legal system.

Nor arguing and I do appreciate your perspective but that’s so odd: vodka is legal and middle and high schoolers shouldn’t be getting into that either.
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