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Chinese Architecture, Old and New

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Re: Chinese Architecture, Old and New

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Post by espitia »

firefoxman1 wrote: post #5
espitia wrote: post #3

I've been living in China for the past 4 months and plan on staying until May. It really is two different worlds. Having traveled through the more modern cities (Shanghai and Beijing for example) and contrasting those to Hangzhou that I'm currently in, it truly is marvelous to see the progress and more importantly the WHY to all this. The Chinese culture and gives one a fresh outlook on life. I would recommend anyone…

Is it necessary to speak the language to get by for a couple weeks?

Not at all. As long as you know the ones you'll be using a lot (food, water, thank you, how much, etc.) you'll be more than fine. Honestly, all you need is body language. I actually have a couple of Korean friends whom I whent out to eat with and without us having a common language. This was back when I knew very little mandarin.

Book your flight and go. Hit me up if you need anything!

Re: Chinese Architecture, Old and New

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Post by espitia »

bfung wrote: post #12
espitia wrote: post #3

I've been living in China for the past 4 months and plan on staying until May. It really is two different worlds. Having traveled through the more modern cities (Shanghai and Beijing for example) and contrasting those to Hangzhou that I'm currently in, it truly is marvelous to see the progress and more importantly the WHY to all this. The Chinese culture and gives one a fresh outlook on life. I would recommend anyone…

Looking at the pictures, I actually felt the opposite of "a fresh outlook on life"! Contrasting the old and the new, I feel like the fake Thames town, the roman columns, the gaudiness of all the buildings loses a lot of the old Chinese culture: the designs of the old and how they relate to the philosophy of the past... but now there's a lot of fake touristy stuff to cover up where the Chinese actually came from. Anyw…

I meant as in you get a new perspective after all that you experience here. You're right though, no right or wrong here. Cheers!

Re: Chinese Architecture, Old and New

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Post by rossjudson »

bfung wrote: post #12
espitia wrote: post #3

I've been living in China for the past 4 months and plan on staying until May. It really is two different worlds. Having traveled through the more modern cities (Shanghai and Beijing for example) and contrasting those to Hangzhou that I'm currently in, it truly is marvelous to see the progress and more importantly the WHY to all this. The Chinese culture and gives one a fresh outlook on life. I would recommend anyone…

Looking at the pictures, I actually felt the opposite of "a fresh outlook on life"! Contrasting the old and the new, I feel like the fake Thames town, the roman columns, the gaudiness of all the buildings loses a lot of the old Chinese culture: the designs of the old and how they relate to the philosophy of the past... but now there's a lot of fake touristy stuff to cover up where the Chinese actually came from. Anyw…

Foreign governments make it very hard for Chinese citizens to travel abroad (not to mention their own government doing the same thing to them, once they rise to a certain level). Solution? Build replicas of the things so they can see them in China instead.

Re: Chinese Architecture, Old and New

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Post by olalonde »

rossjudson wrote: post #23
bfung wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Looking at the pictures, I actually felt the opposite of "a fresh outlook on life"! Contrasting the old and the new, I feel like the fake Thames town, the roman columns, the gaudiness of all the buildings loses a lot of the old Chinese culture: the designs of the old and how they relate to the philosophy of the past... but now there's a lot of fake touristy stuff to cover up where the Chinese actually came from. Anyw…

Foreign governments make it very hard for Chinese citizens to travel abroad (not to mention their own government doing the same thing to them, once they rise to a certain level). Solution? Build replicas of the things so they can see them in China instead.

That's true as well. For example, Window of the World in Shenzhen is a theme park entirely dedicated to that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Window_of_the_World

Re: Chinese Architecture, Old and New

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

olalonde wrote: post #16
bfung wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Looking at the pictures, I actually felt the opposite of "a fresh outlook on life"! Contrasting the old and the new, I feel like the fake Thames town, the roman columns, the gaudiness of all the buildings loses a lot of the old Chinese culture: the designs of the old and how they relate to the philosophy of the past... but now there's a lot of fake touristy stuff to cover up where the Chinese actually came from. Anyw…

The funny thing is that Chinese think exactly the opposite. For them, the fake touristy stuff are the old buildings and traditional Chinese architecture. It reminds me of people who visit Canada and want to see the real Canada: the remote farms, igloos and virgin forests. For us Canadians, it's a bit ridiculous.

But if you look at the adobe housing in Kashgar that is getting torn down for garish apartment blocks, its very depressing (tip: go see Kashgar now before its too late!).

My favorite is when they tear down the old and rebuild a "new old town" like in Lijiang or Fenghuang, or even when the "renovate" sections of the great wall. You can tell its fake, and it feels like Disney Land. But there is still a lot of old architecture left, people in China still "live like that;" e.g. its not totally ridiculous to expect real hutongs in Beijing.

Perhaps they'll build a "Canada town" in Inner Mongolia, complete with virgin forests, igloos, and totem poles.

Re: Chinese Architecture, Old and New

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Post by nachteilig »

civilian wrote: post #13

#12 "An emblem decorates the pavement" ?? Excuse me, that's Roman Imperial emblem. I hope the journalist just skipping that for the sake of copy, rather than ignorance.

Since the picture is described as "inside a building designed to look like a Roman Colosseum", I think the viewer can probably figure that out.

Re: Chinese Architecture, Old and New

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Post by yaix »

Unfortunately, many "historic" buildings in China are not. They are not reconstructed but destroyed and cheaply rebuild in concrete and then painted. Be it historic pagodas, city walls, monuments, temples, etc. Quickly build it so that it looks old and then make money from tourism. Its a shame.

[Lived in China six years, traveled the country for another six months]

Re: Chinese Architecture, Old and New

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Post by arjn »

I dont like all the new fancy-schmancy stuff. These cities are going to end up looking like any other modern/western city anywhere. No character left. Is anyone looking out for historically significant buildings ?
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