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Amazon CEO's talks with U.S. officials triggered crackdown on Anthropic models

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I submitted separately, but this Axios report has some details that call a lot of the speculation in this thread into question, i.e. that this wasn't much of a "jailbreak" at all and that it's not Anthropic-specific - the White House intends to generally regulate Mythos-class models (whatever exactly that means): Between the lines: The government's response "seems way out of line with what's actually in the research…

The governments national security apparatus was using a public signal group and invited a reporter into it. I don't think we should use them as the standard for secure.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/07/prev... the government using this terminology shouldn't be entrusted to make such decisions.

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This is obviously political and the entire narrative is fabrication. David Sacks is publicly gloating about it: https://x.com/DavidSacks/status/2065853007619588171 I can't really say that Anthropic didn't get what they deserved. They exploited security threats to sell their product and play political games, and now their rivals are rubbing it in their faces.

> This is obviously political and the entire narrative is fabrication. I agree with this > David Sacks is publicly gloating about it: https://x.com/DavidSacks/status/2065853007619588171 I do no like David Sacks but how do you say this is gloating about it? Again, I do believe this is political, but Sacks is saying "you said this is dangerous and wanted regulation, and we believe you. Fix this because it's dangerous a…

Sacks works for the government now. Everything is political. This happening on the day SpaceX IPO’d? It’s a flex, and a message.

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Probably using the rule of law in some way? Talking about it in public? Legislating? You know... government type stuff?

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Yes you’re right. Paying off POTUS’s family through a series of pump and dump schemes is much better than what Biden did.

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The simplest explanation is Anthropic hasn't paid the necessary ‘taxes’ to get the required blessings. SpaceX did the right thing: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-06-03/spacex-ip...

Please don't refer to bribes as taxes. Extremely, extremely counterproductive.

It's not taxes, it's "taxes" or "settlement".

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Given the current climate I'd be inclined to declare "tyranny" also but in this case I think given the degree of potential damage the slamming on of brakes is warranted when the alternative is, to strain a metaphor, going full speed off a cliff at relativistic speeds.

Yeah, we have a lot of critical infrastructure connected to the internet. Based on the trend the last few weeks, I expect major cyber attacks this year. I expect that to happen no matter what we do (since the open source models are rapidly catching up), but gating access to the frontier models for a while sounds like a reasonable precaution — as annoying as it is to me personally, to be deprived of such shiny toys! F…

The government software infrastructure has holes that makes Swiss cheese look solid as a rock.

There is no way these systems could be secured in a decade, but I don’t believe they will even try. Knowing developers that have walked those halls, it is not and will not be a priority.

Expect systems to start failing.

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"pumping the brakes" would be fine. This is slamming to a full stop on a crowded freeway and causing a three car pile-up. Warning and advanced notice are the difference between regulation and tyranny, and in this case we're just getting tyranny

Same problem as always. This administration never figured out that how you do things matters. They love the drama of the crash more than actually implementing functional policies.

The goal of this administration has never been effective policy or at least not policy effective at doing things other than self-enrichment and disenfranchisement.

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I still am struggling to understand why they informed the government about something that is known to be an issue in every LLM. There is no LLM that cannot be jailbroken, so unless this means that we have reached the absolute maximum publicly accessible US made LLMs are allowed to operate at with GPT 5.5, this is not grounded in any sane regulation attempt. Does anyone know what limits Fable 5 has overstepped in the…

Its not Fable 5 that overstepped in the eyes of the US government. It's Anthropic. This is transparent revenge for them daring to try and push back a little on enabling war crimes.

Clarification: They want someone who isn’t them to make the decision to commit the war crime. They are happy to facilitate.

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>The reason is pretty obvious. Anthropic tried to play hardball with the government that is one. Another is who is going into the first IPO. Troubles for Anthropic IPO would channel all those money into OpenAI's one. Check financial interests of this admin. Hint - they aren't with Anthropic. Third - most of the export and access controlled tech of the past wasn't productivity multiplier, nor human replacement. AI is…

>Troubles for Anthropic IPO would channel all those money into OpenAI's one. Troubles for Anthropic would almost certainly affect OpenAI, significantly. Yesterday just proved that the government sees it within their remit to shut down AI models. All current and future AI investment now has to contend with this risk. You should even see the effect of this decision on SPCX on market open despite X.ai being whatever tin…

The administration is not known for taking into account second order effects.

The instantaneous instinct to strike an opponent when one can is not much more contemplated than that.

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> This is obviously political and the entire narrative is fabrication. I agree with this > David Sacks is publicly gloating about it: https://x.com/DavidSacks/status/2065853007619588171 I do no like David Sacks but how do you say this is gloating about it? Again, I do believe this is political, but Sacks is saying "you said this is dangerous and wanted regulation, and we believe you. Fix this because it's dangerous a…

> How is this gloating? he is emphasizing that they used their own words against them. everyone knows the security threat is a pretext. the message is that he is smart and they are stupid and he won, which is what I call gloating. > "Those trying to misdirect and tie this action to the prior DoW/Anthropic issues are wrong." an obvious lie, which is inserted to emphasize that it is a lie. when you purposefully lie, no…

"everyone knows the security threat is a pretext." On what planet? Anthropic itself made a big stink about Mythos being able to hack every app out there, and very dangerous as a result. Many reports have confirmed this.
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