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Israeli firm BlackCore suspected of meddling in New York and Scotland votes

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I'm not sure in the Platner case why the supposed progressive cause can't find someone without a Nazi tattoo. I'm not sure what the alleged benefits of Platner are either. Mamdani has been amazing, but what is Platner for?

> what is Platner for? Not being MAGA. I have some respect for Susan Collins. But this nonsense where a tattoo and infidelity should be disqualifying on one side while the President, popularly elected this time, sleeps with porn stars and endorses anti-Semites and KKK adjacents, is unsustainable. If we need a dude with a Nazi tattoo to win Maine, I guess I prefer to be pissed off and winning.

I have the fear that Platner will just be another Fetterman, and you will have brought this unto ourselves...

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"parents and grandparents," You don't have to go into historical events. This is still happening now. Jews are still fighting for their survival and the moment Israel stops fighting, millions of Jews will die.

That's true in a general sense, not true in every specific sense. Before the mass murdering on Oct 2023, Israel didn't fight in the sense of an open conflict/war for a time. It tried to normalize relationships with Arabic countries, but didn't really work on solving the conflict with Gaza. It became more and more obvious they are trying to replace the population in the West Bank, further devalidating political/peacef…

Let’s look at the actual historical record, because the pattern is undeniable: the root cause of this conflict is the absolute refusal of the regional and local leadership to ever accept a sovereign Jewish state within any borders.

In 1937 and 1947, the Jewish community accepted partition, but the local leaders rejected it and chose war.

Following the Six-Day War in 1967, the Arab League shut down any path to compromise by issuing its 'Three No's': no peace, no recognition, and no negotiations.

Decades later, Israel engaged in direct talks at Madrid in 1991 and made massive concessions under the 1993 Oslo Accords to establish the Palestinian Authority, only for the process to be dismantled by waves of suicide bombings.

At Camp David in 2000 and the Taba Summit in 2001, Israel offered an independent state encompassing Gaza and over 90% of the West Bank, but their leadership walked away to launch the Second Intifada.

When the Arab League proposed a plan in 2002, they conditioned it on non-negotiable terms regarding refugees and borders that compromised Israeli security, while Palestinian factions rejected the deal entirely regardless.

In 2003, Israel accepted the international Roadmap for Peace, but the process stalled permanently because the local government failed to fulfill its basic obligation to dismantle terrorist infrastructure.

In 2005, in a one-sided prayer for peace, Israel completely dismantled every single settlement in Gaza, dragged out its own citizens by force, withdrew every soldier, and handed the entire territory over to Palestinian custody.

In 2008, Israel proposed its most sweeping offer yet, including near-total territorial withdrawal and international administration of holy sites, which Mahmoud Abbas flatly refused to sign without any counteroffer.

You cannot blame Israel for a lack of effort when it has repeatedly offered statehood and land for peace. While the West labels Hamas as an extremist group, the reality on the ground is that they are viewed by a vast number of Palestinians as a mainstream governance structure and a legitimate movement of armed resistance against occupation. The true obstacle to peace remains this foundational objective, which Hamas champions and the local political culture reinforces, to establish an Islamic state over the entirety of the land and eliminate Israel entirely. If at any point there is a Palestinian majority and a leadership that genuinely seeks peace, it will happen in a second, despite whatever imperfections Israel may have.

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> I doubt he knew what it was when he got it Sure, maybe. I'm doubtful. But that's irrelevant. He knew when he launched his campaign. He chose to keep it. Worse, there's a good chance his family and his staffers knew as well. This is Jill Biden covering up Joe Biden's dementia all over again, except this time for racism. Platner is a rubbish candidate. But! There is a case to be made that he's better for America than…

Did you recognize that skull as a Nazi symbol without being told? Like, "Oh, that's the Totemkompf"? Personally, like I said, I think the more recent sexting thing is way more damaging to his brand. "Got a dumb tattoo on shore leave and posted dumb reddit comments 10 years ago" are fine for an everyman candidate, recent infidelity is not.

> Did you recognize that skull as a Nazi symbol without being told?

Nope. But if you're sending your pics out, someone is going to come back to you with that feedback. In this case, we have someone who says they did that.

> the more recent sexting thing is way more damaging to his brand

Sure, why not. I don't think, at the end of the day, we have any evidence either is electorally relevant anymore.

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> what is Platner for? Not being MAGA. I have some respect for Susan Collins. But this nonsense where a tattoo and infidelity should be disqualifying on one side while the President, popularly elected this time, sleeps with porn stars and endorses anti-Semites and KKK adjacents, is unsustainable. If we need a dude with a Nazi tattoo to win Maine, I guess I prefer to be pissed off and winning.

I have the fear that Platner will just be another Fetterman, and you will have brought this unto ourselves...

> Platner will just be another Fetterman

This reminds me of the folks who had conniptions over Sinema and Manchin. You know what we'd have if we had four of those right now? A majority.

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I'm not sure in the Platner case why the supposed progressive cause can't find someone without a Nazi tattoo. I'm not sure what the alleged benefits of Platner are either. Mamdani has been amazing, but what is Platner for?

It's not like it's a swastika, it was a skull and crossbones that turns out to have been used by the SS (I think?). I had no idea that particular image was nazi-related and I don't think most other people would have either. As far as "mistakes made by marines on shore leave" go it's pretty mild. Honestly his more recent scandals are more concerning as far as character. Platner's upside is being a senator that's not f…

It's an extremely well known nazi symbol. Probably second behind the swastika itself. There's even that famous "are we the baddies" meme, which uses that symbol as a central pillar of the gag.

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I'm not sure in the Platner case why the supposed progressive cause can't find someone without a Nazi tattoo. I'm not sure what the alleged benefits of Platner are either. Mamdani has been amazing, but what is Platner for?

> what is Platner for? Not being MAGA. I have some respect for Susan Collins. But this nonsense where a tattoo and infidelity should be disqualifying on one side while the President, popularly elected this time, sleeps with porn stars and endorses anti-Semites and KKK adjacents, is unsustainable. If we need a dude with a Nazi tattoo to win Maine, I guess I prefer to be pissed off and winning.

I feel like Maine's about to lie down with dogs over this.

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I have the fear that Platner will just be another Fetterman, and you will have brought this unto ourselves...

> Platner will just be another Fetterman This reminds me of the folks who had conniptions over Sinema and Manchin. You know what we'd have if we had four of those right now? A majority.

As if that has ever overcome the American media and political classes' fixation with bipartisanship (which is how the American system inoculates itself against left-wing policy)

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I have the fear that Platner will just be another Fetterman, and you will have brought this unto ourselves...

> Platner will just be another Fetterman This reminds me of the folks who had conniptions over Sinema and Manchin. You know what we'd have if we had four of those right now? A majority.

A majority that does what exactly, though?

Manchin was against Build Back Better, expanding voting rights legislation and codifying abortion rights.

Yes, he was better than a Republican. But he was a big reason why Democrats are seen as the do-nothing party who never achieve things. Because he stood in the way of it.

Not to mention, Fetterman isn’t Manchin. Manchin at least voted to impeach Trump, Fetterman is skeptical of even doing that.

Re: Israeli firm BlackCore suspected of meddling in New York and Scotland votes

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I'm not sure in the Platner case why the supposed progressive cause can't find someone without a Nazi tattoo. I'm not sure what the alleged benefits of Platner are either. Mamdani has been amazing, but what is Platner for?

> what is Platner for? Not being MAGA. I have some respect for Susan Collins. But this nonsense where a tattoo and infidelity should be disqualifying on one side while the President, popularly elected this time, sleeps with porn stars and endorses anti-Semites and KKK adjacents, is unsustainable. If we need a dude with a Nazi tattoo to win Maine, I guess I prefer to be pissed off and winning.

> Not being MAGA

Yes, but that should be baseline for the Democrat candidate? Are there really no better candidates in Maine? This sort of thing would be regarded as disqualifiing in the UK even for local councilors from the far right. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/may/27/calls-barns...

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