Live data from Hacker News

Amazon CEO's talks with U.S. officials triggered crackdown on Anthropic models

wsj.com

541–550 of 656 posts

Re: Amazon CEO's talks with U.S. officials triggered crackdown on Anthropic models

#541

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please don't refer to bribes as taxes. Extremely, extremely counterproductive.

they used quotes. Is nuance dead?

I mean, there is no nuance to be found here. Let's call a spade a spade.

Re: Amazon CEO's talks with U.S. officials triggered crackdown on Anthropic models

#542

Earlier quoted context omitted.

they used quotes. Is nuance dead?

Honestly, I completely missed the quotes on the first read. I agree with the sentiment that crimes should be called out as crimes and not, e.g., ‘oopsies’.

If you see fraud and don't say fraud you're the fraud.

Re: Amazon CEO's talks with U.S. officials triggered crackdown on Anthropic models

#543

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most of the agentic coding capable ones can. Even very small ones like Qwen 3.6 or Gemma 4 are surprisingly good at it.

And if LLMs can do it, then the information is freely available out there with a single google search. Time would be better spent on making infrastructure more resilient.

That doesn't follow. I can't google search, "are there any vulnerabilities in auth.go in this directory?" I can ask an LLM. And, if they find something, I can review it, and fix it, thus making infrastructure more resilient.

Re: Amazon CEO's talks with U.S. officials triggered crackdown on Anthropic models

#544

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"pumping the brakes" would be fine. This is slamming to a full stop on a crowded freeway and causing a three car pile-up. Warning and advanced notice are the difference between regulation and tyranny, and in this case we're just getting tyranny

Given the current climate I'd be inclined to declare "tyranny" also but in this case I think given the degree of potential damage the slamming on of brakes is warranted when the alternative is, to strain a metaphor, going full speed off a cliff at relativistic speeds.

Yeah, we have a lot of critical infrastructure connected to the internet. Based on the trend the last few weeks, I expect major cyber attacks this year.

I expect that to happen no matter what we do (since the open source models are rapidly catching up), but gating access to the frontier models for a while sounds like a reasonable precaution — as annoying as it is to me personally, to be deprived of such shiny toys!

Fable is a massive step up and I didn't expect it public for another month or two. Something tells me we'll get it back in a few weeks though.

Re: Amazon CEO's talks with U.S. officials triggered crackdown on Anthropic models

#545
post #278
post #71

I still am struggling to understand why they informed the government about something that is known to be an issue in every LLM. There is no LLM that cannot be jailbroken, so unless this means that we have reached the absolute maximum publicly accessible US made LLMs are allowed to operate at with GPT 5.5, this is not grounded in any sane regulation attempt. Does anyone know what limits Fable 5 has overstepped in the…

I submitted separately, but this Axios report has some details that call a lot of the speculation in this thread into question, i.e. that this wasn't much of a "jailbreak" at all and that it's not Anthropic-specific - the White House intends to generally regulate Mythos-class models (whatever exactly that means): Between the lines: The government's response "seems way out of line with what's actually in the research…

> the White House intends to generally regulate Mythos-class models (whatever exactly that means)

This is not at all surprising. And I hope people don't make the mistake that it's a "this administration" problem.

It was obviously from the early days of these LLMs that the shoe was going to drop and we (as Joe public) would not retain access. I mean that once ChatGPT3 dropped it was clear there was some level of functionality at which we would be denied further access.

The only carve out will be as per older technical innovations the US is more concerned with foreign national access than US citizen access at home.

I don't remember the details with encryption but it was basically you have to ship a breakable version for the rest of the world, and you generally sometimes ship a backdoored version.

And Anthropic is more concerned by what they are asked to do to US citizens than the broader group.

Same story with encryption, CPUs, GPUs, blah blah blah.

Re: Amazon CEO's talks with U.S. officials triggered crackdown on Anthropic models

#547
post #513

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[flagged]

Whether or not you agree with how US laws are drafted, this administration has no logical foundation for anything it does which is a massively different and worse problem by orders of magnitude. This administration runs on whims. This is horrifying and there is real harm in this we have yet to see the full repercussions of.

[flagged]

Re: Amazon CEO's talks with U.S. officials triggered crackdown on Anthropic models

#548
post #358

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s a terrible way to create AI regulations If they actually cared about this issue we’d have predictable laws and regulatory bodies that let companies actually plan There’s a reason royal fiat doesn’t lead to healthy economies. It’s just confusing and chaotic. It’s not clear why anyone would invest in a new model now. Then the next administration comes in and instantly, by fiat, they decide to lift the ban. The m…

> That’s a terrible way to create AI regulations This administration doesn't do regulations, its extortion. Same as the tariffs. Just grease someone's palm and then the vague restriction is lifted.

And that is the same as previous administrations, now you just see it openly.

Re: Amazon CEO's talks with U.S. officials triggered crackdown on Anthropic models

#549

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In a parallel universe where we have Biden (or Democratic Party) administration, how different do you think the regulations / approach would be for this fast moving and unpredictable technology?

Probably using the rule of law in some way? Talking about it in public? Legislating? You know... government type stuff?

[flagged]

Re: Amazon CEO's talks with U.S. officials triggered crackdown on Anthropic models

#550
post #541

Earlier quoted context omitted.

they used quotes. Is nuance dead?

I mean, there is no nuance to be found here. Let's call a spade a spade.

jeez, y'all no fun. When bad shit is going down humour is _as_ an appropriate tool as being incredibly obvious. Lingering in a mixed area between the two also makes it considerably harder for censors and the subject to punish the disobedience. Innit?
Post reply on HN