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4 things to know about the new sunscreen ingredient the FDA approved

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Re: 4 things to know about the new sunscreen ingredient the FDA approved

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BEMT is the first new ingredient allowed by the FDA since the 1990s. It's meaningful but a very narrow decision. The FDA still has not approved any of the following sunscreens that have been widely used outside of the US, in some cases for decades: - DHHB / Uvinul A Plus - EHT / Uvinul T150 - MBBT / Tinosorb M - Iscotrizinol / Uvasorb HEB - Drometrizole trisiloxane - Mexoryl XL - Methoxypropylamino cyclohexenylidene…

There is no risk with using zinc oxide 24%. It works too well and is safe. The risk is with chemical sunscreens having hormone disrupting effects, although bemotrizinol is expected to be safer in this regard, especially if it's not stacked with older harmful chemicals.

Yes, if you're savvy enough to know to stick to sunscreens that contain zinc oxide as the only ingredient (I don't think most people are), and don't mind looking like a ghost (the white cast) or getting white marks on your clothes, this is a safe and effective option. If you aren't checking the ingredients lists carefully, like most people aren't, and you don't know that most sunscreen-containing products in the US are hormone disruptors, like most people don't, your health is at risk.

Re: 4 things to know about the new sunscreen ingredient the FDA approved

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

While generally true, it's worth remembering that thin shirts can have an SPF as low as 50 or so, which isn't much.

A typical tshirt is closer to SPF 7, depending on color and weight.

Just from basic logic this has to be false. Maybe there are some translucent t-shirts that are SPF 7 but my skin always reacts much more to sun exposed parts that have SPF applied than it ever did under t-shirt. And no i use high quality SPF50 and reapply.

Re: 4 things to know about the new sunscreen ingredient the FDA approved

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post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no risk with using zinc oxide 24%. It works too well and is safe. The risk is with chemical sunscreens having hormone disrupting effects, although bemotrizinol is expected to be safer in this regard, especially if it's not stacked with older harmful chemicals.

Yes, if you're savvy enough to know to stick to sunscreens that contain zinc oxide as the only ingredient (I don't think most people are), and don't mind looking like a ghost (the white cast) or getting white marks on your clothes, this is a safe and effective option. If you aren't checking the ingredients lists carefully, like most people aren't, and you don't know that most sunscreen-containing products in the US a…

What is your belief with regard to bemotrizinol in this matter?

Re: 4 things to know about the new sunscreen ingredient the FDA approved

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Bemotrizinol is the ingredient being discussed. If you're looking for a specific product to try, check out Ombrelle and also La Roche-Posay's Anthelios line. I share this as a Canadian (bemotrizinol has been available here for years), but check the ingredients because it may vary by country because of regulations. Aside: I did a bunch of sunscreen research some time ago for my family. I like the non-absorbing/non-rea…

Sadly, you’ll have to wait for those brands in the US. > DSM-Firmenich has exclusive rights to market bemotrizinol in the U.S. for 18 months. It will be sold under the brand name Parsol Shield.

Well, you could have and still can buy them shipped from other countries on sites like eBay. Shame it has to come to this in the land of the free, however.

Re: 4 things to know about the new sunscreen ingredient the FDA approved

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Would have liked to hear about the safety profile for marine life that this has compared to other chemical sunscreens.

Cursory googling led to a bunch of commercial sites calling it reef safe and they mostly reference this article: https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-981-97-3195-4

I’m not paying for access to this and can’t be bothered to pirate it, I’m going to just believe the front page of Google

Re: 4 things to know about the new sunscreen ingredient the FDA approved

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post #18

BEMT is the first new ingredient allowed by the FDA since the 1990s. It's meaningful but a very narrow decision. The FDA still has not approved any of the following sunscreens that have been widely used outside of the US, in some cases for decades: - DHHB / Uvinul A Plus - EHT / Uvinul T150 - MBBT / Tinosorb M - Iscotrizinol / Uvasorb HEB - Drometrizole trisiloxane - Mexoryl XL - Methoxypropylamino cyclohexenylidene…

You are taking a risk with your health by importing sun screen that has not been FDA approved.

Re: 4 things to know about the new sunscreen ingredient the FDA approved

#38
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While generally true, it's worth remembering that thin shirts can have an SPF as low as 50 or so, which isn't much.

A typical tshirt is closer to SPF 7, depending on color and weight.

That sounds right, but SPF 50 shirts are readily available, and at least the ones made from polyester are cheap.

Re: 4 things to know about the new sunscreen ingredient the FDA approved

#39
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While generally true, it's worth remembering that thin shirts can have an SPF as low as 50 or so, which isn't much.

It means only 2% of the harmful rays (UVA) are getting through the shirt or alternatively the skin under the shirt can spend 50 times as long in the sun as it could without any protection.

Correction: UVB, not UVA.

Correction: the standard used for clothing is UPF, not SPF. They're similar, but there are differences.

Re: 4 things to know about the new sunscreen ingredient the FDA approved

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Bemotrizinol is the ingredient being discussed. If you're looking for a specific product to try, check out Ombrelle and also La Roche-Posay's Anthelios line. I share this as a Canadian (bemotrizinol has been available here for years), but check the ingredients because it may vary by country because of regulations. Aside: I did a bunch of sunscreen research some time ago for my family. I like the non-absorbing/non-rea…

why not just get the least obtrusive physical sunscreen like "clear" thinksport?

My fear is that all of these chemical based ones increase the rates of disease in susceptible populations which is hard to detect

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