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You don't know your history. Zionism started in the late 19th century as a nationalist and colonialist movement; by 1917 it had already secured the support of the (soon to be) British administration of Palestine for the creation of a Jewish state there; mass immigration was already underway and flooded with hundreds of thousands of colonists a territory that had had almost no Jewish presence for a thousand years or m…

In the 40s, Jewish migration was restricted by Britain, which changed after WWII because of the Holocaust. As already stated, the political landscape shifted when the Holocaust came to light.

As of today, 20% of Israel population are Arabic. Compare that to how Jewish population developed in Arabic countries i.e. Egypt, with practically zero Jews left. Not saying they did ethnical cleansing, but you don't end up with 20% when doing that. We will never now how the numbers had turned out without Arabic countries attacking Israel multiple times, but for sure with more than 20%.

> immediately set to conquer new territory

That's rewriting history. The initial borders and border changes happened while defending against attacks from other countries. Regarding the six day war, from what I have read, there are serious signs that support the view of the six day war being a preemptive strike.

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> no idea that particular image was nazi-related and I don't think most other people would have either He knew what it was [1]. That doesn't mean he's unelectable in 2026. [1] https://www.cnn.com/2026/06/05/politics/graham-platner-cant-...

I'm sure he figured it out at some point and should have had it covered up sooner, but I doubt he knew what it was when he got it. Honestly, I'd be more concerned with someone who knows too much Nazi minutiae rather than too little. EDIT: reading the CNN story, I'm actually less convinced, this is all coming from a conservative activist ex-girlfriend. Its a really obscure symbol and then there's this quote: "Platner…

> I doubt he knew what it was when he got it

Sure, maybe. I'm doubtful. But that's irrelevant. He knew when he launched his campaign. He chose to keep it. Worse, there's a good chance his family and his staffers knew as well. This is Jill Biden covering up Joe Biden's dementia all over again, except this time for racism.

Platner is a rubbish candidate. But! There is a case to be made that he's better for America than Susan Collins.

Re: Israeli firm BlackCore suspected of meddling in New York and Scotland votes

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I'm sure he figured it out at some point and should have had it covered up sooner, but I doubt he knew what it was when he got it. Honestly, I'd be more concerned with someone who knows too much Nazi minutiae rather than too little. EDIT: reading the CNN story, I'm actually less convinced, this is all coming from a conservative activist ex-girlfriend. Its a really obscure symbol and then there's this quote: "Platner…

> I doubt he knew what it was when he got it Sure, maybe. I'm doubtful. But that's irrelevant. He knew when he launched his campaign. He chose to keep it. Worse, there's a good chance his family and his staffers knew as well. This is Jill Biden covering up Joe Biden's dementia all over again, except this time for racism. Platner is a rubbish candidate. But! There is a case to be made that he's better for America than…

Did you recognize that skull as a Nazi symbol without being told? Like, "Oh, that's the Totemkompf"?

Personally, like I said, I think the more recent sexting thing is way more damaging to his brand. "Got a dumb tattoo on shore leave and posted dumb reddit comments 10 years ago" are fine for an everyman candidate, recent infidelity is not.

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Lol. While of course Zionism was conceived also as a solution to the persecutions that Jews were facing in Europe, it was born within the European ideology of nationalist movements of that period (which gave birth to several of the European nations of today) and of colonialism- also a widespread and uncontroversial feature of the time. Nothing specifically bad about Zionism in this respect, it's simply a product of t…

Biggest problem is that many strive to revert history in some sense. You can't just dismantle a country like Israel. Israel isn't going away without a genocide on the Jewish population.

It's sad that there hasn't been any good faith decision makers for roughly 20 years. Everybody just fueling the conflict, making it miserable for everybody who directly faced the consequences. Lately, the mass murdering in 2023, followed by bigger scale killing / mass murdering.

The terrorist group Hamas as well as Netanjahu and his fascist clique must both be removed for the people in the region having a chance of a peaceful live.

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"parents and grandparents," You don't have to go into historical events. This is still happening now. Jews are still fighting for their survival and the moment Israel stops fighting, millions of Jews will die.

That's true in a general sense, not true in every specific sense.

Before the mass murdering on Oct 2023, Israel didn't fight in the sense of an open conflict/war for a time. It tried to normalize relationships with Arabic countries, but didn't really work on solving the conflict with Gaza. It became more and more obvious they are trying to replace the population in the West Bank, further devalidating political/peaceful approaches by Fatah, fueling Hamas' approach of terror and murder.

Fighting for survival foremost mean to architect a sustainable solution for Gaza and westbank.

Re: Israeli firm BlackCore suspected of meddling in New York and Scotland votes

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Wow, again I am dismayed by the antizionism and anti-Israel sentiment. The popularity of this short, weak article on this website, and the vitriol and hate in the comments is unreal. Can't you all go to Reddit?

In 2016 the UK based Cambridge Analytica was blamed for Trump's win in 2016. Then he won again in 2024 without them. Meanwhile both USA parties invested heavily in social media campaigns.

In my country local government elections are in a few months and political parties are already flooding my social media with rage bait (primarily Instagram and Facebook).

This short article is about a private company, not linked to the government, that may or may not have been retained by locals, that may or may not have breached foreign interference laws, and that certainly did not lend its targeted candidates an overwhelming advantage (Mamdani was the most popular candidate in the NYC mayoral election). But because it is about Israel everyone goes crazy.

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> in the 1980s and 1990s Except Israel invaded Lebanon before that. It also engaged in assassinations, espionage, terror and sabotage before that. In fact Israelis engaged in those even before the state of Israel was officially pronounced. I'm not saying the Iranians or Lebanese etc. never play dirty, but this portrayal of them as just irrational and aggressive for no reason whatsoever against their peace loving Isra…

> Except Israel invaded Lebanon before that. It also engaged in assassinations, espionage, terror and sabotage before that. In fact Israelis engaged in those even before the state of Israel was officially pronounced. That is moving the goal posts, as these are not instances of attacking Iran, it's hard to claim Iran never attacked Israel first when it is either financing attacks against Israel or participating in the…

> as these are not instances of attacking Iran

No, they're instances of attacking Palestinians.

> it's hard to claim Iran never attacked Israel first when it is either financing attacks against Israel or participating in them for the last 45+ years

The Iranians supported the Palestinians Israel was attacking the same way the Soviets supported the Vietnamese. This was not the Soviets attacking the US, this was the Soviets supporting indigenous forces that the US was attacking. It's the same as the Israelis supporting Kurdish groups in Iran, Turkey etc.

These groups have their own motives and agency, the Lebanese opposed to Israel are not mere 'proxies' of Iran, neither are the Palestinians. They're opposed to Israel for their own reasons, namely Israel occupies their land.

If you're so concerned about Iran being able to come in and support them, then stop occupying foreign land and the whole reason Iran is able to make inroads with your neighbors disappears.

You won't do that of course, because Israel is the one who first conducted attacks on Iran directly. Therefore it does not get to play the card of being attacked. It invaded Syria too for no reason whatsoever, other than taking more land.

> Back when the PLO was founded there was no "foreign territory occupied by Israel", only internationally recognized Israeli borders and Gaza/West Bank which were under Egyptian/Jordanian occupation.

Which is why the PLO has a bloody conflict with Jordan, which you conveniently omit. It's almost as if they were opposed to being occupied, period.

When Israel invaded Lebanon back in the 70s/80s, it already took control of Gaza and the West Bank by that point.

> Two countries that refused to create an independent Palestinian state

I love this talking point. So because someone else was horrible to the Palestinians, that justifies Israel being horrible to them too?

Re: Israeli firm BlackCore suspected of meddling in New York and Scotland votes

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> Iran is not strictly "an obstacle" to Israeli hegemony. Its ideology since the 1970s clearly states the destruction of Israel as its goal. you say that as if israel doesn't have the exact same ideology against iran (it does)

> you say that as if israel doesn't have the exact same ideology against iran (it does) What are the parallels in Israeli society for Iranian school systems morning chants of "Death to Israel" and a public countdown clock to the destruction of Israel?

Are you seriously going to bring up chants when Israel is a country where they chant 'Death to Arabs' casually, watch the Gaza genocide from a hilltop and have installed vending machines to make the massacres more fun to watch?

But to answer your question directly, the Iranians would say they equate Israel with ethno-supremacy, same as apartheid South Africa. Getting rid of apartheid in South Africa was not about getting rid of while South Africans as such, it was about getting rid of the ethno-supremacy underpinning apartheid.

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I'll direct you to the Nat Turner rebellion [1]. Or the practice of "necklacing" in apartheid South AFrica [2]. Or the Mau Mau rebellion [3]. As Nelson Mandela put it [4]: > A freedom fighter learns the hard way that it is the oppressor who defines the nature of the struggle, and the oppressed is often left no recourse but to use methods that mirror those of the oppressor. At a certain point, one can only fight fire…

None of that justifies rape and torture. None of it makes Gaza remotely similar to the Warsaw Ghetto.

Why do you not apply the same logic to Israel? The occupied territories were occupied as part of a long running conflict with people who wanted to wipe out Israel.

The problem with your argument is that you end up justifying pretty much everything that is part of any long running conflict or where there has been a history of oppression. If you apply the same standards evenly you will end up justifying almost all terrorists, many genocides, war crimes, etc.

> There's actually no evidence they knew that. The Nazis went to great lengths to deceive such populations that they were being resettled.

The uprising happened after they realised what was happening. There was no armed resistance until the realised:

https://wwv.yadvashem.org/yv/en/exhibitions/warsaw_ghetto_te...

> That's how state violence works. It makes things illegal. There was a time when slavery was legal. Does that make opposing it wrong? Apartheid in South Africa was legal. Apartheid in Israel is "legal".

It is sometimes right to break the law. Your claim that the UK is "locking up grandmothers indefinitely for holding up signs" is verifiably false (you cite an article that says "12 hours", which is not indefinitely) and lacks context. The UK is not remotely like apartheid South Africa!

Your claims that everyone is a Zionist plotter or Israeli agent are pure neo-fascist conspiracy theory. Its about as credible as the Protocols of the Elders of Zion unless you have actual evidence.

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As a New Yorker this doesn’t shock me too much. The level of “Mamdani is an anti-Semite” sentiment I saw online (Reddit particularly) felt truly hysterical. And wasn’t matched by any equivalent in the offline world.

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