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Israeli firm BlackCore suspected of meddling in New York and Scotland votes

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Post by HWR_14 »

narrator wrote: post #374
myth_drannon wrote: post #166

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From https://www.opensecrets.org/ Totals since 2016 Country Total Spending China $562,676,323 Japan $504,111,211 Liberia $432,968,270 Saudi Arabia $421,890,448 Marshall Islands $382,012,024 South Korea $363,237,700 Bahamas $293,205,139 United Arab Emirates $269,529,107 Qatar $269,260,794 Israel $215,168,616 So for small countries UAE and Qatar(no surprise here, they just gifted 1 billion airplane to Trump)

Liberia does not have that much money. Same goes for Marshall Islands. The Marshall Islands has a GDP of $342 million. What the heck is going on here?

It works out to about 0.8% of Liberia's GDP. The Marshall Islands number works out to about 15% of the estimated value of the amount of financial assistance the US gives them.

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Post by warumdarum »

strictnein wrote: post #387
unselect5917 wrote: post #323

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'islamo supremacists', but not jewish supremacists? The ones just spontaneously moved into a land where people already lived 75 years ago aren't responsible? Literally DARVO. is a reaction that perpetrators of wrongdoing, such as abusers, narcissists, or sexual offenders, may display in response to being held accountable for their behavior. Research indicates that it is a common manipulation strategy of psychological…

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Slowly? The islamo supremacists pushed them out of the whole middle east. Look at minorities map of that region over time. Thats the true horror show. The alewites murdered as revenge for assad, the druse attacked that dont make it into the newspapers, the yesidi assaulted by ISIS and driven into the aame wind the want to drive the yehudis into.

Re: Israeli firm BlackCore suspected of meddling in New York and Scotland votes

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

pjc50 wrote: post #409
bayarearefugee wrote: post #391

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They have to be kind of panicking that the smear tactics keep backfiring. Didn't stop Mamdani. Won't stop Platner. At this point it is amusing to see them pissing away so many millions of dollars to stop a public opinion tide that has no chance of being stopped.

I'm not sure in the Platner case why the supposed progressive cause can't find someone without a Nazi tattoo. I'm not sure what the alleged benefits of Platner are either. Mamdani has been amazing, but what is Platner for?

> what is Platner for?

Not being MAGA. I have some respect for Susan Collins. But this nonsense where a tattoo and infidelity should be disqualifying on one side while the President, popularly elected this time, sleeps with porn stars and endorses anti-Semites and KKK adjacents, is unsustainable. If we need a dude with a Nazi tattoo to win Maine, I guess I prefer to be pissed off and winning.

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

nixon_why69 wrote: post #425
pjc50 wrote: post #409

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I'm not sure in the Platner case why the supposed progressive cause can't find someone without a Nazi tattoo. I'm not sure what the alleged benefits of Platner are either. Mamdani has been amazing, but what is Platner for?

It's not like it's a swastika, it was a skull and crossbones that turns out to have been used by the SS (I think?). I had no idea that particular image was nazi-related and I don't think most other people would have either. As far as "mistakes made by marines on shore leave" go it's pretty mild. Honestly his more recent scandals are more concerning as far as character. Platner's upside is being a senator that's not f…

> no idea that particular image was nazi-related and I don't think most other people would have either

He knew what it was [1]. That doesn't mean he's unelectable in 2026.

[1] https://www.cnn.com/2026/06/05/politics/graham-platner-cant-...

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

nailer wrote: post #399
ebbi wrote: post #398

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I'll take things that didn't happen for $10

Do you think the entire British press is just making this up to mess with you?

> Do you think the entire British press is just making this up to mess with you?

What do you count as the British press? The UK has a notorious yellow-journalism tabloid culture.

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

daishi55 wrote: post #354
eunos wrote: post #84

I'm surprised that they dare to target NYC. I think NSO Group restricted Pegasus so that no US adversary would be retained as a client and the US would not be targeted.

They think they can do whatever they want. And thus far, they have been right about that.

> thus far, they have been right about that

NSO has been sued [1][2] and sanctioned [3].

[1] https://about.fb.com/news/2025/05/winning-the-fight-against-...

[2] https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/society-equity/us-cou...

[3] https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/11/03/pegasus...

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

Der_Einzige wrote: post #322
oliwarner wrote: post #155

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Oh, get in the bin. Conflating Israeli-sanctioned malevolence with "Jewish people" is incredibly unhelpful to the discussion.

If “anti Zionism” is actually just “anti semitism” than “Israeli-sanctioned malevolence” can be conflated with the Jewish people.

> If “anti Zionism” is actually just “anti semitism” than “Israeli-sanctioned malevolence” can be conflated with the Jewish people

No, obviously not. If 2 + 2 = 5, then 9 + 9 = 3 billion. No, and no.

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Post by nixon_why69 »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #435
nixon_why69 wrote: post #425

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It's not like it's a swastika, it was a skull and crossbones that turns out to have been used by the SS (I think?). I had no idea that particular image was nazi-related and I don't think most other people would have either. As far as "mistakes made by marines on shore leave" go it's pretty mild. Honestly his more recent scandals are more concerning as far as character. Platner's upside is being a senator that's not f…

> no idea that particular image was nazi-related and I don't think most other people would have either He knew what it was [1]. That doesn't mean he's unelectable in 2026. [1] https://www.cnn.com/2026/06/05/politics/graham-platner-cant-...

I'm sure he figured it out at some point and should have had it covered up sooner, but I doubt he knew what it was when he got it.

Honestly, I'd be more concerned with someone who knows too much Nazi minutiae rather than too little.

EDIT: reading the CNN story, I'm actually less convinced, this is all coming from a conservative activist ex-girlfriend. Its a really obscure symbol and then there's this quote:

"Platner argued that he had the tattoo for 17 years without anyone raising concerns about Nazi symbolism, noting that he received a State Department security clearance, reenlisted in the Army after being screened for gang and hate-related tattoos, and regularly appeared shirtless around family members, including Jewish relatives."

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

chadgpt3 wrote: post #346
fakedang wrote: post #17

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I wonder what makes Europeans think Israel is an outpost of European civilization - just the skin tone? Lol. Israel has always been a country trying to coopt the culture of its Arab neighbors. They've tried to claim shawarmas, falafel and hummus, dishes that are quintessentially Arabic, as their own.

Israel is literally a European colony. Europe sent a bunch of people from Europe to an already populated land to settle there and displace the natives. What definition of "outpost" wouldn't include that?

> Europe sent a bunch of people from Europe to an already populated land to settle there and displace the natives

Are we talking about recent Jewish migrants? Or migration under the British, the Ottomans, the Mongols, the Romans, the Macedonians, the Babylonians or the Sea Peoples?

This American tendency to project black-white and colonist-colonised diametrics onto the world is insanely reductive. There are settler-colonial elements to Israel's creation. That one thread of commonality doesn't make it comparable to the New World.

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