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Amazon CEO's talks with U.S. officials triggered crackdown on Anthropic models

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Its not Fable 5 that overstepped in the eyes of the US government. It's Anthropic. This is transparent revenge for them daring to try and push back a little on enabling war crimes.

Antropic models are the ones that designated that school as valid target

That's wild misinformation. There was an outdated military database at play, and not just Claude. It doesn't exclude AI interference of course but your statement is just not correct.

Re: Amazon CEO's talks with U.S. officials triggered crackdown on Anthropic models

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post #84

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Its not Fable 5 that overstepped in the eyes of the US government. It's Anthropic. This is transparent revenge for them daring to try and push back a little on enabling war crimes.

Anthropic is perfectly fine with the US government using Claude to commit war crimes. The US military has done hundreds of extra-judicial killings in the waters around South America over the last year and Anthropic hasn't had anything to say about that.

Holy crap, I didn't realize that some many people had been killed, over 200 according to a New York Times report: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/31/world/americas/us-boat-st...

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All models almost certainly can’t do that.

Most of the agentic coding capable ones can. Even very small ones like Qwen 3.6 or Gemma 4 are surprisingly good at it.

And if LLMs can do it, then the information is freely available out there with a single google search. Time would be better spent on making infrastructure more resilient.

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Crazy to think that people in some places in the world work for $2 per day. Jailbraking fable is economically equivalent to the labor of a thousand people.

Wait until you hear how many families could survive on the food you throw away

Probably none?

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I still am struggling to understand why they informed the government about something that is known to be an issue in every LLM. There is no LLM that cannot be jailbroken, so unless this means that we have reached the absolute maximum publicly accessible US made LLMs are allowed to operate at with GPT 5.5, this is not grounded in any sane regulation attempt. Does anyone know what limits Fable 5 has overstepped in the…

I submitted separately, but this Axios report has some details that call a lot of the speculation in this thread into question, i.e. that this wasn't much of a "jailbreak" at all and that it's not Anthropic-specific - the White House intends to generally regulate Mythos-class models (whatever exactly that means): Between the lines: The government's response "seems way out of line with what's actually in the research…

Why amazon? I bet the three letters had a hissy fit field day worrying that their expensive hancrafted zero days would evaporate and software would get more secure. So, the government is throwing a wrench for the NSA

Re: Amazon CEO's talks with U.S. officials triggered crackdown on Anthropic models

#528

Unfortunately even if this blocking is only temporary, a precedent has been set. The government will likely be more willing to target open source models in the future that they deem to be too powerful. A lot of open source AI infrastructure exists within reach of the US government.

I wouldn't be surprised if this isn't some kind of marketing stunt Amazon paid the white house to do on Anthropic's behalf to make the model appear more desirable and it'll be back online in a week or two. It's artificial scarcity tactics 101 to boost value that you see in crypto every day.

Re: Amazon CEO's talks with U.S. officials triggered crackdown on Anthropic models

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As a libertarian, they are not even close to being the same. A bribe is generally optional where you can opt out of the transaction. Taxes are a racket.

So if you get stopped by the police in a bribe-affine country and they make clear you can either pay some money or they will take you to jail even though you did nothing wrong, is that a tax or a bribe?

It's blackmail/extortion. The act of paying the money is the bribe. Here is the Wikipedia definition.

> Bribery is the corrupt solicitation, payment, or acceptance of a private favor (a bribe) in exchange for official action.[1][2] The purpose of a bribe is to influence the actions of the recipient, a person in charge of an official duty, to act contrary to their duty and the known rules of honesty and integrity.

Re: Amazon CEO's talks with U.S. officials triggered crackdown on Anthropic models

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Please don't refer to bribes as taxes. Extremely, extremely counterproductive.

they used quotes. Is nuance dead?

Honestly, I completely missed the quotes on the first read. I agree with the sentiment that crimes should be called out as crimes and not, e.g., ‘oopsies’.
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