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Amazon CEO's talks with U.S. officials triggered crackdown on Anthropic models

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I'm sure many countries have learnt lessons from the NPT and would have the good sense to not agree to the same thing again. We've seen time and time again if you have nukes you can do what you want to the countries without them.

Agreed! I think it will have to be a better version of the nuke NPT. Something like every country's government keeps a Mythos like model and that's it. We stop there. Since it's a model; the most powerful country could create as many copies of the model as the countries ready to sign the treaty. But that's it. No more development after that. Somehow countries will have to come together to work this out. What's the so…

The AI threat is clearly a subset of the irresponsible billionaires threat, and like that threat we basically have to wait until the first sufficiently lethal incident before there can be real action taken.

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This is such an insidey job corrupt Trump admin situation. As an Anthropic partner and a massive web infra provider themselves, the reasonable move here would have been to go directly to Anthropic to report this jailbreak. The same way any other sort of software security vulnerability is reported and dealt with. "Hey buddy, uhh, we need to show you something" and they fix it, and you continue to work together and col…

case in point. https://x.com/PeteHegseth/status/2065897156226015690

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Please don't refer to bribes as taxes. Extremely, extremely counterproductive.

I assume the HN community is smart enough to pick up on “taxes” as meaning bribery, especially when they link an article explaining how SpaceX did that through an IPO mechanism that rewarded the current administration.

This forum is full of libertarians that might view bribes and taxes as synonyms.

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Following the PGP example, I wonder how long until "illegal" tshirts with weights printed on them start popping up.

You’re going to need a big shirt, right?

Whatever size is most popular at Warhammer conventions, that should be big enough for a 10T parameter model

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That’s a terrible way to create AI regulations If they actually cared about this issue we’d have predictable laws and regulatory bodies that let companies actually plan There’s a reason royal fiat doesn’t lead to healthy economies. It’s just confusing and chaotic. It’s not clear why anyone would invest in a new model now. Then the next administration comes in and instantly, by fiat, they decide to lift the ban. The m…

In a parallel universe where we have Biden (or Democratic Party) administration, how different do you think the regulations / approach would be for this fast moving and unpredictable technology?

There is not a single chance this would have happened under that admin. Not one single chance.

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putting my old man cap on and I would like to weigh in on the US admin export control on Mythos. It does remind me of the mid-1990s when suddenly asymmetric cryptographic tools such as PGP became a reality and a wide usage possible due to the growing base of internet users. Governments (US, France…) did not understand how to regulate and banned export (and asked users to apply for a licence). I do see a strong parall…

Following the PGP example, I wonder how long until "illegal" tshirts with weights printed on them start popping up.

That would be a good one! Count me in!

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Amazon’s AWS and core delivery business are fairly mature, and with consumer sentiment poor and non-AI tech contracting, having a growth vertical like Bedrock is good for shareholders. Without their own core tech, Amazon will be paying rent on AVs in a couple of years - or worse, they will lose all of the benefits or their logistics monopoly because an AV semi can afford to be inefficient

What is AV, autonomous vehicle or?

Autonomous vehicle, yes

Re: Amazon CEO's talks with U.S. officials triggered crackdown on Anthropic models

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Unfortunately even if this blocking is only temporary, a precedent has been set. The government will likely be more willing to target open source models in the future that they deem to be too powerful. A lot of open source AI infrastructure exists within reach of the US government.

A huge win for china. No one is going to forget this. Every single developer will remember this weekend and be pissed off. I'm sure it's a huge wakeup call for any dev that was asleep and not bothering with open source models.

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I still am struggling to understand why they informed the government about something that is known to be an issue in every LLM. There is no LLM that cannot be jailbroken, so unless this means that we have reached the absolute maximum publicly accessible US made LLMs are allowed to operate at with GPT 5.5, this is not grounded in any sane regulation attempt. Does anyone know what limits Fable 5 has overstepped in the…

Its not Fable 5 that overstepped in the eyes of the US government. It's Anthropic. This is transparent revenge for them daring to try and push back a little on enabling war crimes.

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Re: Amazon CEO's talks with U.S. officials triggered crackdown on Anthropic models

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"pumping the brakes" would be fine. This is slamming to a full stop on a crowded freeway and causing a three car pile-up. Warning and advanced notice are the difference between regulation and tyranny, and in this case we're just getting tyranny

Given the current climate I'd be inclined to declare "tyranny" also but in this case I think given the degree of potential damage the slamming on of brakes is warranted when the alternative is, to strain a metaphor, going full speed off a cliff at relativistic speeds.

I'm feeling strong alignment with your perspective here. Thanks
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