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Amazon CEO's talks with U.S. officials triggered crackdown on Anthropic models

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Post by pksebben »

arcanemachiner wrote: post #410
whattheheckheck wrote: post #380

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its been 10 years of historical abuse. You're a battered spouse in a bad relationship with the most audacious narcissist that has ever lived.

I'm not American, and I definitely don't support Trump. Care to spin the outrage wheel again and lob another unfounded insult at me? At any rate, feel free to indulge in (plausible) conspiracy theories until further details of the story have emerged.

Real question; what are we supposed to do about that information delay when it directly enables corruption and usury? This is an ongoing issue with historical precedent; the repeal of glass-steagall, MKULTRA and COINTELPRO, Iran-contra, watergate, the list is indefinably long.

All of these all surfed in on that very temporal ambiguity, and the fact that we have zero recourse in a plurality of cases - a situation that has eroded over time, not gotten better, and could feasibly be credited with a large part of the palpable social decay that real people are suffering from every day right now.

So what do we do about it? "Indulging in plausible conspiracy theories" could also be read here as "trying to get out ahead of this imminent yet undclear threat"

Re: Amazon CEO's talks with U.S. officials triggered crackdown on Anthropic models

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Post by voidfunc »

handoflixue wrote: post #454
VectorLock wrote: post #404

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not that I'm ever one to support anything this regime does but I'm kind of okay with them pumping the brakes on this until we really get a handle on what the The USG has limited capabilities on technologies from GPS chips to thermal imaging with "national security" implications for a while and now they're doing it but it seems people don't like how ill defined "Mythos-class" means. Would it be better if it was some %…

"pumping the brakes" would be fine. This is slamming to a full stop on a crowded freeway and causing a three car pile-up. Warning and advanced notice are the difference between regulation and tyranny, and in this case we're just getting tyranny

> and in this case we're just getting tyranny

You expected different with this administration?

Re: Amazon CEO's talks with U.S. officials triggered crackdown on Anthropic models

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Post by pmdr »

g42gregory wrote: post #383

So I logged into the Claude Code and their fabled Fable 5 model is "not available". Because it's "so good" and "so dangerous" that I can't have it. Judging by the amount of bugs in CC, this model can't be all that good. But regardless, what is the point of paying to Anthropic if their models are not available to you? I am switching to GPT 5.5.

I got to use it for a couple of days on Pro. Feature implementation actually fit into subscription usage, but then it went on chasing its tail fixing bugs it introduced and burning through about $15 in credits. It got the job done in the end, though. I'd say it's good, better than Opus, but I found that both GPT 5.4 and 5.5 are way better than Opus.

So Fable is as good as GPT 5.5, if not better.

Re: Amazon CEO's talks with U.S. officials triggered crackdown on Anthropic models

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Post by roncesvalles »

dwa3592 wrote: post #270

I wonder if there would be an equivalent of Non proliferation treaty like Nukes? I know it sounds crazy - but if there's even 0.1% chance that some models are so good that they can be used to hack into people's bank accounts - I, as the government, would not want that model to be publicly accessible. I would also request other countries to come to the table and sign this NPT(for AI). Public will still have access to…

There is nothing that LLMs can do that humans cannot. If you are worried about bank accounts getting hacked, that's a problem to be solved on the banking side.

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Post by BoiledCabbage »

vulcan01 wrote: post #12
aix1 wrote: post #2

Given Amazon's fairly large equity stake in Anthropic, I really don't get their motivation. Anyone care to speculate?

I think it's just to hype Anthropic. Check it out, we have products so dangerous the government banned them, we must be so advanced . (Their competitors cannot make such a claim.)

> I think it's just to hype Anthropic.

What in the world??

When did HN lose all ability to think critically about anything?

Re: Amazon CEO's talks with U.S. officials triggered crackdown on Anthropic models

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Post by apt-apt-apt-apt »

hyperadvanced wrote: post #442
easton wrote: post #360

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Feels like AWS could just tell them they’re not launching Fable then. Anthropic needs them more than the opposite, no? Nobody who is a big Bedrock customer will ditch for another cloud provider for the privilege of having anthropic hold on to their inputs.

Amazon’s AWS and core delivery business are fairly mature, and with consumer sentiment poor and non-AI tech contracting, having a growth vertical like Bedrock is good for shareholders. Without their own core tech, Amazon will be paying rent on AVs in a couple of years - or worse, they will lose all of the benefits or their logistics monopoly because an AV semi can afford to be inefficient

What is AV, autonomous vehicle or?

Re: Amazon CEO's talks with U.S. officials triggered crackdown on Anthropic models

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Post by handoflixue »

voidfunc wrote: post #482
handoflixue wrote: post #454

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"pumping the brakes" would be fine. This is slamming to a full stop on a crowded freeway and causing a three car pile-up. Warning and advanced notice are the difference between regulation and tyranny, and in this case we're just getting tyranny

> and in this case we're just getting tyranny You expected different with this administration?

Of course I expect the government to act better than this! But I am not so naive as to assume my expectations will be met.

Re: Amazon CEO's talks with U.S. officials triggered crackdown on Anthropic models

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Post by VectorLock »

thfuran wrote: post #407
VectorLock wrote: post #404

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not that I'm ever one to support anything this regime does but I'm kind of okay with them pumping the brakes on this until we really get a handle on what the The USG has limited capabilities on technologies from GPS chips to thermal imaging with "national security" implications for a while and now they're doing it but it seems people don't like how ill defined "Mythos-class" means. Would it be better if it was some %…

> The USG has limited capabilities on technologies from GPS chips Are you referring to Selective Availability? That ended decades ago.

Not selective availability. COCOM Limits that prevent a GPS chip from operating above a certain speed and altitude.
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