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Police officer investigated for using AI to 'create evidence' in multiple cases

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Re: Police officer investigated for using AI to 'create evidence' in multiple cases

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Post by Quarrelsome »

Chinjut wrote: post #83
constableclaude wrote: post #76

The headline evokes ideas of creating a video of a suspect perpetrating the crime but what I think is much more likely is the police officer used AI to enhance an image in a way that they considered innocuous, e.g: a photo was blurry so they “enhanced” it. Since “enhancing” is letting AI fill in the gaps it would be using AI to “create evidence”. Regardless of what they did, tampering with evidence is completely unac…

Yes, let's please give police officers the copious (cop-ious?) benefit of the doubt they have earnt.

you're quite right, every single one of them is actively trying to kill each and every one of us. To consider any other possibility would be hysterical.

Re: Police officer investigated for using AI to 'create evidence' in multiple cases

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Post by jshier »

Jensson wrote: post #97
jshier wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

iPhones, no, there's no AI replacement or synthesis of objects from the camera. There were Android phones doing this (famously I think it was Samsung where it would replace images of the moon with a different image of the moon), and the Photos app has AI manipulation features. And most of the time, Apple's noise removal algorithm actually removes detail from images, most notably making text and straight lines wobbly.

> iPhones, no, there's no AI replacement or synthesis of objects from the camera This is AI. Its not generative AI if that is what you mean, but it is AI altering the image and adding things that wasn't there, usually its fine sometimes it fails horribly and make the picture totally different. https://x.com/mitchcohen/status/1476351601862483968

No, that's not AI in the context you were claiming. They use ML techniques and ML-optimized algorithms for their image processing, which can be claimed under the general AI umbrella, but they certainly aren't generating elements of the images captures by the camera app, which is what you meant. The leaf example given in sibling comment has long been debunked, and it's literally the only example of generative content injection claimed for the iPhone camera.

Re: Police officer investigated for using AI to 'create evidence' in multiple cases

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Post by CDRdude »

assimpleaspossi wrote: post #113
thatguy0900 wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My girlfriends been having me watch law and order svu with her and to be honest it doesn't really even seem trustworthy with how they want to present it. The psychologist guy especially will come up with some wildly detailed assertions about who the criminal is based on nothing

Are we really going to go to a fictional TV show now?

If a fictional-but-popular TV show treats some kinds of evidence as more reliable than they really are, juries may be primed to believe in the kind of thing the TV show presents as legitimate.

Re: Police officer investigated for using AI to 'create evidence' in multiple cases

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Post by pyth0 »

asdff wrote: post #68
pyth0 wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are we really pretending like the effort to do something doesn't affect how often that thing occurs?

Are we acting like that was ever a limiting factor towards disseminating propaganda in the analog age?

No obviously not. But this is silly framing because there are so many things we do because it increases the effort for bad actors to do bad things. We close and lock our doors not because it prevents break-ins, but because that is a barrier that makes breaking in more inconvenient.

Re: Police officer investigated for using AI to 'create evidence' in multiple cases

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Post by strken »

xorcist wrote: post #90
constableclaude wrote: post #76

The headline evokes ideas of creating a video of a suspect perpetrating the crime but what I think is much more likely is the police officer used AI to enhance an image in a way that they considered innocuous, e.g: a photo was blurry so they “enhanced” it. Since “enhancing” is letting AI fill in the gaps it would be using AI to “create evidence”. Regardless of what they did, tampering with evidence is completely unac…

That is a lot of words just to say "fabricating evidence".

If we want to solve a problem, intent matters.

Re: Police officer investigated for using AI to 'create evidence' in multiple cases

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Post by hiddencost »

Quarrelsome wrote: post #121
Chinjut wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, let's please give police officers the copious (cop-ious?) benefit of the doubt they have earnt.

you're quite right, every single one of them is actively trying to kill each and every one of us. To consider any other possibility would be hysterical.

... Police in the united states have more than a century of flagrant misconduct under their belts. They protect their own, they almost never face consequences for killing people, they are frequently corrupt, they are frequently biased.

Here's a couple fun examples:

https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/2026-06-05/boston-law-enforc...

https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/la-is-investigating...

Re: Police officer investigated for using AI to 'create evidence' in multiple cases

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Post by danielvaughn »

dofm wrote: post #127

I saw this headline, saw that it was Sky news, thought "oh a British policeman? Bet it was Derbyshire police". There you go.

As an American, I'm totally out of the loop on this one but it sounds interesting. I assume Derbyshire has a reputation?

Re: Police officer investigated for using AI to 'create evidence' in multiple cases

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Post by cwmoore »

Quarrelsome wrote: post #121
Chinjut wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, let's please give police officers the copious (cop-ious?) benefit of the doubt they have earnt.

you're quite right, every single one of them is actively trying to kill each and every one of us. To consider any other possibility would be hysterical.

I see what you did there[1]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hysteresis

Re: Police officer investigated for using AI to 'create evidence' in multiple cases

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Post by dofm »

cwmoore wrote: post #98
xorcist wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is a lot of words just to say "fabricating evidence".

Their word is evidence and their employer is the prosecution. This is the fabric of prosperity.

FWIW their employer is not the prosecution. UK police don't prosecute cases, the CPS (Crown Prosecution Service) does.

The word of a police officer, in UK law, is that of any other witness. There is a kind of presumption of regularity in the courts, but they don't have any sense of qualified immunity; they are generally but not universally considered not personally liable for negligence but that is not guaranteed them.

And unlike police departments in the USA they don't really have much latitude to experiment with technology. IMO they should be banned from using AI tools that aren't centrally provided.

Other than that, yes — I agree with your general view that this is an alarming state of affairs for people in a position of trust.

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