Never use animation just for the sake of it. This article would not have existed had software designers stuck to this rule. All examples in the article use completely unnecessary animation.
Every Frame Perfect
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#202i actually like that the crop snaps after the fact, it reminds me that the crop is in fact active, same with rubber-banding type stuff.
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#203I agree that some of the examples the author provided are instances of bad animation. But I don't agree with the premise of the article. Computer graphics is all about exploiting features of the human visual system. We perceive things differently when they're moving vs. when they're standing still. It's very possible that a "wrong" frame in isolation is the best looking one in a real-time context. We can also pick ap…
> It's very possible that a "wrong" frame in isolation is the best looking one in a real-time context.
For example?
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#204I agree that some of the examples the author provided are instances of bad animation. But I don't agree with the premise of the article. Computer graphics is all about exploiting features of the human visual system. We perceive things differently when they're moving vs. when they're standing still. It's very possible that a "wrong" frame in isolation is the best looking one in a real-time context. We can also pick ap…
The final "zoom animation from Preview app" also illustrates the inverse. Every frame looks perfect in isolation, just like the author wants. It's only when you see it in motion that you notice the issue.
It doesn't look perfect, the image is misaligned.
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#205Earlier quoted context omitted.
We do this in cartoons as well. Check out this Spider-Verse animator breaking down a shot of Gwen drumming. [1] If you look at individual frames, there are all sorts of details that make no logical sense. In one frame, she actually has three hands! But it looks great if you see it in motion. [1] https://xcancel.com/hf_rosa/status/1089675426312552449
That is exactly what I'm talking about, though. This is not what is happening with buggy computer UI animations: these are not carefully crafted to look better in motion, they're actually only considered acceptable because it's kind of difficult to see the mistakes in the animation. Whereas cartoon animating, you could argue the details don't make logical sense, but that's only to someone who doesn't understand the p…
I think there's also a major difference between the kind of weird intermediate frames that are acceptable for a highly-stylized cartoon at 24FPS and the kind of intermediate frames that are acceptable for a UI running at 120FPS.
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#206The entire premise of this article is wrong and derived from a misquote. Kristian Høgsberg, in Wayland stated his goal was a system in which "every frame is perfect, by which I mean that applications will be able to control the rendering enough that we'll never see tearing, lag, redrawing or flicker." It had nothing to do with "if I take a screenshot of your app at any moment, it must make sense." As others here have…
The entire premise of your comment is wrong and derived from not understanding this quote of the author:
> Wayland is talking about the technical side of things (modern GPU stacks are very complex and Wayland is trying to take control back) but it could be applied to UI too.
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#207Earlier quoted context omitted.
agree. I hacked a Panasonic GH1 to use 24fps in 2014. My newer camera, the GX85 includes this frame rate by default. Movies look more dreamlike in 24fps, due to the magic number of resetting some cycle every 5 seconds (24 frames in 5 seconds is 120 frames). Seinfeld was also filmed in 24fps. Maybe the jokes sounded funnier becaue of that? I don't know, but I enjoy playing games at 20- 30fps more than 60fps for the ci…
The difference with games is that they generally don't have motion blur, every frame is sharp like a photo, so at low framerates like 30 you can see a distracting judder from the series of low fps sharp frames which you don't see in movies. At high framerates your eyes will naturally see blur in the same way your eyes see your hand waving as blurry even though there is theoretically infinite frames. Some of this is a…
agreed, there is a memory aspect to it too. That said, there is something about this video that looks funny: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3-15YADeyg (I made this last year)
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#208I would love to understand these people, really! On a personal level, if thing works - I say, cool, lets focus on something else now. But I have worked with people who are similar to the author and we will get into the conversation: - they: wait, but the bundle size is 2.4Mb, it can be improved a lot - me: by how much? and we have 10k users/day and we have cache policy setup - they: we can reduce it to 1Mb, imagine s…
> but my mind doesn't even want to think about what's perfect.
That's the barrier to understanding right there! This also makes it easy to make up 2x cost estimates to justify not improving anything
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#209Bold words for the site which makes my eyes bleed.
Articles from this site pop up occasionally. Something about the background color causes me to see a medium-sized bright spot in my vision after a few minutes. Due to this, I have to remind myself not to click when I see the URL.
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#210I'm sure a UI that had none of these imperfect frames would feel better, but now I really want someone to edit each of these clips to show what it would actually look like. At the same time, why does everything need motion? My understanding is that motion should be used if an action subtly changes the UI in a region that's different from where the action was triggered (e.g. toasts) I think many of these transitions a…
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