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Police officer investigated for using AI to 'create evidence' in multiple cases

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Re: Police officer investigated for using AI to 'create evidence' in multiple cases

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Here in the US? Probably a large double-digit percentage of cases imo…

> large double-digit percentage This is a very very intense claim, and if true, would represent a monumental institutional failure across hundreds or even thousands of disparate organizations. Do you have any data to support your hunch? Strong claims require strong evidence.

Do you have any exposure to the criminal "justice" system in the USA?

Re: Police officer investigated for using AI to 'create evidence' in multiple cases

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post #53

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Shouldn't it be the exact opposite here ? The burden of proof is the other way around. The big claim is here: the state has grandiose claims that the overwhelming majority is fair, but there is no proof of it. Therefore the state should prove that more than 90% of the cases are legitimate, fair, not coerced, and not motivated by the pressure to interrupt the proceedings. 97% of people choose plea deals or out-of-cour…

A burden of proof is associated with an individual claim. There’s no “burden of proof in the other direction” - what you’ve actually done is created a second burden of proof and also - worse - attempted to distract from the original point. It is disingenuous to weasel out of proving one claim by making another, or saying “look over here” Also, outrageous claims in opposite directions can both be bullshit.

On what basis is it an outrageous claim? You think the number is closer to 0? That sounds like a more outrageous claim to me.

Re: Police officer investigated for using AI to 'create evidence' in multiple cases

#83

The headline evokes ideas of creating a video of a suspect perpetrating the crime but what I think is much more likely is the police officer used AI to enhance an image in a way that they considered innocuous, e.g: a photo was blurry so they “enhanced” it. Since “enhancing” is letting AI fill in the gaps it would be using AI to “create evidence”. Regardless of what they did, tampering with evidence is completely unac…

Yes, let's please give police officers the copious (cop-ious?) benefit of the doubt they have earnt.

Re: Police officer investigated for using AI to 'create evidence' in multiple cases

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post #47

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How many people could do that? How long did it take? Now it’s a lot easier and faster

Plenty could. https://www.metmuseum.org/exhibitions/objects/objects@exhibi...

Compared to now

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/IT.NET.USER.ZS

Re: Police officer investigated for using AI to 'create evidence' in multiple cases

#85

The headline evokes ideas of creating a video of a suspect perpetrating the crime but what I think is much more likely is the police officer used AI to enhance an image in a way that they considered innocuous, e.g: a photo was blurry so they “enhanced” it. Since “enhancing” is letting AI fill in the gaps it would be using AI to “create evidence”. Regardless of what they did, tampering with evidence is completely unac…

> what I think is much more likely is the police officer used AI to enhance an image in a way that they considered innocuous, e.g: a photo was blurry so they “enhanced” it

Doesn't iphones do this by default? The camera isn't actually that sharp, instead it fills in the details so it looks sharp, and sometimes it adds things that were never there. Can easily see it adding a gun in a blurry photo of someone.

So almost everyone uses AI to forge evidence then.

Re: Police officer investigated for using AI to 'create evidence' in multiple cases

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The headline evokes ideas of creating a video of a suspect perpetrating the crime but what I think is much more likely is the police officer used AI to enhance an image in a way that they considered innocuous, e.g: a photo was blurry so they “enhanced” it. Since “enhancing” is letting AI fill in the gaps it would be using AI to “create evidence”. Regardless of what they did, tampering with evidence is completely unac…

There is a tremendous amount of cases you can look up where cops wholesale fabricate evidence. Why wouldn't they use chatgpt to do it as well?

Re: Police officer investigated for using AI to 'create evidence' in multiple cases

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post #78

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A few years ago, one of my coworkers was arrested for a domestic violence complaint. Looking into his case, I found an extremely specific lurid description of the allegations -- and then I found the same lurid description copy/pasted to every other person recently arrested for the same crime. I'm probably getting the specific terms wrong, but I did click through to see it on a government website, because my first sus…

Why did you "look into the case of your coworker"?

You wouldn't be curious?

Re: Police officer investigated for using AI to 'create evidence' in multiple cases

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The headline evokes ideas of creating a video of a suspect perpetrating the crime but what I think is much more likely is the police officer used AI to enhance an image in a way that they considered innocuous, e.g: a photo was blurry so they “enhanced” it. Since “enhancing” is letting AI fill in the gaps it would be using AI to “create evidence”. Regardless of what they did, tampering with evidence is completely unac…

It matters little what you think, if that’s not what happened.

Re: Police officer investigated for using AI to 'create evidence' in multiple cases

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post #40

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Police in the United States is already in a state of "institutional failure"...

“Police in the United States” is not a monolith. It’s easy to say things that sound true on the surface, but even if true, it’s still irresponsible to say them on the back of a hunch.

It's more monolithic than you would think due to shared culture over the internet. There's a whole narrative about sheepdogs (them), sheep (us) and wolves (the bad guys).

Re: Police officer investigated for using AI to 'create evidence' in multiple cases

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The headline evokes ideas of creating a video of a suspect perpetrating the crime but what I think is much more likely is the police officer used AI to enhance an image in a way that they considered innocuous, e.g: a photo was blurry so they “enhanced” it. Since “enhancing” is letting AI fill in the gaps it would be using AI to “create evidence”. Regardless of what they did, tampering with evidence is completely unac…

That is a lot of words just to say "fabricating evidence".
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